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How to leave Google and why

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Re: How to leave Google and why

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I would use DDG if they added a "!g" button at the bottom of their first results page.

You can use '?' to edit the search input. So you can type your initial query, scroll down using the arrow keys, and if you're not happy by the end of the page, use '?' and append !g.

How many times do you need to tap the screen to accomplish that on mobile?

Re: How to leave Google and why

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One of the biggest problems is probably that there's almost no way of using an android phone and purchase apps without a google account (which will be then linked to purchases and activities).

There are many Huawei devices being sold in my region which are completely Google free - and they have apps.

So it seems it's possible?

(Not to mention many deGoogled Android builds like Lineage which, ironically, usually run best on Google phones due to their published sources).

Re: How to leave Google and why

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I agree, Google is bad enough on its own, no need to compare. It gets less negative press compared to Facebook, probably because they managed their public relations better, but if you really look, you will find plenty of reasons not to share all your data with them. (Having said that, Facebook is of course just as bad as Google if not worse)

> probably because they managed their public relations better It's not only PR. Google haven't violated their users' privacy to the extent Facebook have, it's not even close.

Facebook isn't reading my email ...

Re: How to leave Google and why

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So what would the solution for Android phone be? Buy a new Android phone or buy an iPhone? They are very similar from the perspective of your data being owned by the phone OS maker.

I thought one of the big selling points of IPhone vs Android was greater privacy protection, and the fact that Apple's business model isn't based around selling user data? There's also the possibility to use a de-Googlified version of Android like https://lineageos.org/ .

After extensive research, this was ultimately my conclusion: Going iOS. My rationale was that it is significantly easier to de-Google an iPhone then it is to de-Google and android phone. I can also lock down an iPhone more easily (Disabling iCloud, using DNSCloak, etc).

There are plenty of projects that aim to remove Google from an android, but I question their security; even if the privacy is good, there could be exploits or unpatched vulnerabilities.

Re: How to leave Google and why

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Ironically, leaving google is easier on Android because you can download and use apps without the App Store.

For example, how is using YouTube via the iOS app any different _at all_? If you had android you could use the app newpipe.

Re: How to leave Google and why

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I was expecting this to be an article about leaving Google as an employee. The daily "You are at Google!"-elitist chatting makes you feel kind cool at first, but after two years you just get sick of hearing it and it becomes unbearable. (YMMV, I suppose it's not the same at all locations or within all departments ...)

Regarding the article: The "Why?" paragraph talks about a lot of things, but not why you should quit using Google. If anything it tells you why you should quit using Facebook/Whatsapp. If the argument is "Facebook is bad, so Google must be bad" you might as well stop using the internet all together right now, as this can be applied to basically any other service provider of any kind.

Re: How to leave Google and why

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The problem with moving away from Google and Facebook always seems to come down to cost and convenience.

The recent removal of infinite photo storage, and the always-imminent demise of hangouts might have finally moved the for me on Google, but it's unfortunate that Google Docs is still the premiere collaboration platform for many folks.

And Messenger/WhatsApp are the messaging platforms of choice in at least half the world. One can't just up and leave while staying in touch with friends/family.

Re: How to leave Google and why

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Rather pointless article. It doesn't give any new or even compelling arguments to leave. Just "woooo personal data". And it doesn't even tell you how to leave, like nobody is just going to delete all their data. People want alternatives.

Re: How to leave Google and why

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i am interested in mailinabox. i think next month i am going to take the plunge but i need a webmail. my question, how much of a vps server do you need to set one up? 1Gb ram for miab+roundcube? any better foss webmail like roundcube or squirrelmail? also, have you looked into oracle always free ? would that work?

Regarding the VPS: It requires 512 MB RAM minimum, but 1 GB is recommended, that would be e.g. the $10/month Digitalocean VPS. MIAB will do automated backups of everything that's on the machine, this means that it will use more than double the space on disk (compared to just the space that it would be required to store your email + attachments), that's if you choose to store the backups on local disk (but why would y…

oh. i don't need contacts or calendar. just plain vanilla email with a webmail. i think any client on fdroid should work for mobile. backups are interesting and important really. vultr "seems" cheaper. will have to investigate
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