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Re: A bot that converts Reddit threads into ace attorney scenes

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Post by ta1234567890 »

aaron695 wrote: post #70
fao_ wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are you implying Google did it on purpose to prevent this super-intelligence from taking over? Why are you reading that from what I said? I wasn't responding to the superintelligence thing (as I hadn't quoted it), and that seems like the weirdest reading from what I responded to. The claim was: "Can any single person turn off the internet or prevent everyone else from using their phones/screens for hours every day?…

> but a well-trained well-connected group could do it very easily. Yes, but we would send in armed troops to stop them and reverse their actions. I guess your point is the Super Intelligence has fully infiltrated our government, military and law enforcement. It is far more than just the internet.

> I guess your point is the Super Intelligence has fully infiltrated our government, military and law enforcement.

> It is far more than just the internet.

Very well put. I guess we've already lost.

Re: A bot that converts Reddit threads into ace attorney scenes

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

ta1234567890 wrote: post #48
davidscolgan wrote: post #34

I've wondered if the AI superintelligence everyone is watching out for is actually slowly being built from the bottom up, and encompasses evening in the entire world. Deep Thought from Hitchhiker's Guide is seeming more and more plausible to me. Perhaps this bot that makes Reddit videos doesn't do anything "useful" per se, but it is doing what a human might otherwise do, and adds itself to Reddit as an entity that co…

You are spot on. We are so self-centered that we think an AI superintelligence will be something like a superintelligent-human-mind/person inside a computer, when most likely, it will be nothing like a human and probably completely unrecognizable to us. In fact, I'd argue it's already here and already taken over. Most of us are now enslaved by screens and the Internet, we are addicted to them, even if we don't want t…

> I've wondered if the AI superintelligence everyone is watching out for is actually slowly being built from the bottom up, and encompasses evening in the entire world.

every time someone tries this idea of training an AI on "the internet" it comes out badly racist / bigoted.

Garbage in, Garbage out.

1) https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-ch...

2) https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/01/14/lee-luda-ai-chatbot-fa...

Re: A bot that converts Reddit threads into ace attorney scenes

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Post by inDigiNeous »

whymauri wrote: post #2

This bot is a lot of fun! Maybe we need an HN clone? :P

The HN hivemind would not allow such discussions to take place in the first place. Which kinda sucks, if you have some other view that is not accepted by the general mindset here, have some downvotes.

Re: A bot that converts Reddit threads into ace attorney scenes

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Post by geon »

JohnBooty wrote: post #31
m45t3r wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually the original series is from Game Boy Advance, but the GBA games were never released outside of Japan. Nintendo DS ports were the first one releases in the rest of the world. BTW, I am a great fan of the series, really recommend it.

Did you know that it's actually a rather pointed parody/criticism of the Japanese justice system? I had no idea myself! Perhaps I was the only one who didn't know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_justice_system_of_Jap... The conviction rate in Japan is over 99% -- going to "trial" is essentially the same as being found guilty. The prosecuting attorneys have a lot of discretion over what is prosecuted, and are…

Sounds like the Cardassian justice system in Star Trek Deep Space 9.

Re: A bot that converts Reddit threads into ace attorney scenes

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Post by JohnBooty »

Natsu wrote: post #68
JohnBooty wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you know that it's actually a rather pointed parody/criticism of the Japanese justice system? I had no idea myself! Perhaps I was the only one who didn't know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_justice_system_of_Jap... The conviction rate in Japan is over 99% -- going to "trial" is essentially the same as being found guilty. The prosecuting attorneys have a lot of discretion over what is prosecuted, and are…

What is the right conviction rate? Your article says that a study of every legal case since WWII found that it was due to prosecutors not trying uncertain cases, which would seem to be a good thing for the innocent. There are criticisms about allegedly forced confessions and such, but that seems to be unrelated to the conviction rate itself.

I didn't criticize the Japanese justice system.

I said the game was a criticism/parody of the Japanese justice system.

I don't have an opinion on the Japanese justice system. I simply do not know enough about it.

(Admittedly, I did say it was easy to imagine that some prosecutors might have a bit of a "god" complex...)

Re: A bot that converts Reddit threads into ace attorney scenes

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Post by fao_ »

ta1234567890 wrote: post #66
fao_ wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are you implying Google did it on purpose to prevent this super-intelligence from taking over? Why are you reading that from what I said? I wasn't responding to the superintelligence thing (as I hadn't quoted it), and that seems like the weirdest reading from what I responded to. The claim was: "Can any single person turn off the internet or prevent everyone else from using their phones/screens for hours every day?…

I understand. However, what I'm saying is that even if that capability exists, in practice it doesn't matter, as it is something that we will never act on becauae we've already been taken over. That outage example shows that people will immediately act to restore, preserve and expand the system, never destroy it.

This is a rather spurious assumption, that you have there.

'The system' that you're referring to in most likelyhood is just an aspect of science fiction, as such there is no provable threat from the internet, and it doesn't make any kind of capitalistic sense to turn off the infrastructure upon which rests, for example, the stock market, the banking infrastructure, a small portion of the communications infrastructure.

Now, if there were a provable, tangible threat to these systems remaining, and it was seen to likely be a GH-0 'Dead Greenhouse' scenario[0], then I think it would push people to take action.

But I don't think you can claim that "people will never turn off the internet, ever", simply because as-such they have never done it. With that line of logic the USSR would never have got humanity to space[1].

[0]: http://www.scpwiki.com/k-class-complete-list

[1]: The USSR won "the space race", by getting humans into orbit first (Which is why it's called "the space race" and not "the moon race")

Re: A bot that converts Reddit threads into ace attorney scenes

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Post by fao_ »

aaron695 wrote: post #70
fao_ wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are you implying Google did it on purpose to prevent this super-intelligence from taking over? Why are you reading that from what I said? I wasn't responding to the superintelligence thing (as I hadn't quoted it), and that seems like the weirdest reading from what I responded to. The claim was: "Can any single person turn off the internet or prevent everyone else from using their phones/screens for hours every day?…

> but a well-trained well-connected group could do it very easily. Yes, but we would send in armed troops to stop them and reverse their actions. I guess your point is the Super Intelligence has fully infiltrated our government, military and law enforcement. It is far more than just the internet.

I feel like everyone stating that "the superintelligence is around, and has already won" in this thread is acting based on what they wish to be true, rather than what we can see based on fact.

You have turned a potentiality for which there is as yet no evidence, into a certainty. A rational mindset in general tends to frown on such things.

Re: A bot that converts Reddit threads into ace attorney scenes

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Post by fao_ »

fao_ wrote: post #78
aaron695 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but a well-trained well-connected group could do it very easily. Yes, but we would send in armed troops to stop them and reverse their actions. I guess your point is the Super Intelligence has fully infiltrated our government, military and law enforcement. It is far more than just the internet.

I feel like everyone stating that "the superintelligence is around, and has already won" in this thread is acting based on what they wish to be true, rather than what we can see based on fact. You have turned a potentiality for which there is as yet no evidence, into a certainty. A rational mindset in general tends to frown on such things.

I feel I should clarify, for the sake of anyone that bothers to browse my profile / lurkers, I don't mean Rationality inasmuch as Jordan Peterson does[0], or any of the alt-right. I mean Rationality in the Humanist sense, i.e. the progressive Rational Wiki's left-wing approach.

[0]: https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-d... | skip to "Having safely established Jordan Peterson is an intellectual fraud" for a dissection of his proposed philosophies and why they are suitably shitty.

Re: A bot that converts Reddit threads into ace attorney scenes

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Post by Natsu »

JohnBooty wrote: post #76
Natsu wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the right conviction rate? Your article says that a study of every legal case since WWII found that it was due to prosecutors not trying uncertain cases, which would seem to be a good thing for the innocent. There are criticisms about allegedly forced confessions and such, but that seems to be unrelated to the conviction rate itself.

I didn't criticize the Japanese justice system. I said the game was a criticism/parody of the Japanese justice system. I don't have an opinion on the Japanese justice system. I simply do not know enough about it. (Admittedly, I did say it was easy to imagine that some prosecutors might have a bit of a "god" complex...)

Fair enough, but that criticism of the conviction rate always stuck out to me--and this is by no means the first time I've heard it repeated--simply because it's one of those cases where there is no right answer.
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