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Re: Google Images Restored

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Post by rajacombinator »

nostromo wrote: post #68
neilpanchal wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are so many things that bother me about contemporary UI in general, I ranted on here the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24965293 I sincerely feel that the discipline of building user interfaces is long lost and perhaps never to come back. From car dashboards to loud typography, the whole field is regressing. Minimalism, too much white space, infantilization of users, design trends, loss of pred…

This soulless corporate style of illustration not a single person likes: https://www.imgur.com/DcL05OA.gif (This could be a subset of infantilization, since this art style seems to come from books for toddlers.)

What is the name for this abhorrent trend, and how did it originate and become ubiquitous?

Re: Google Images Restored

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Post by lolc »

syndacks wrote: post #52
errantspark wrote: post #11

Fuck Getty Images. Fuck IP law. Fuck copyright. All that shit needs a massive refactor. I can't bear to think about how much harm has been done to software and human reality in general by lawyers and MBAs seeking to extract the maximum amount of value from things. I'm glad things like this exist, but so sad that they need to. EDIT: and as one commenter astutely pointed out, fuck Pintrest too, a perfect example of the…

We wouldn't have modern civilization without IP law. Curious how you make a living; if it's like anything like the vast majority of the people on this site, or society in general for that matter, it's rooted in laws protecting theft of intellectual property.

The term "intellectual property" lumps together quite disparate concepts. It's not helpful to use it. And "theft" is a poor analogy.

I'd say society wouldn't change much if copyright were abolished. Probably for the better. Claiming authorship should still be protected in my opinion, see next point.

Trademark law gives some nice protections to consumers, so I'd vote for that one to stay.

Patent law? Ahhahaha where do I begin? To think that we rely on that crutch to develop medication makes my head hurt.

Re: Google Images Restored

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Post by userbinator »

neilpanchal wrote: post #51
gchokov wrote: post #5

Someone in Google’s UX and Design department, really needs go out and breathe some fresh air. Is it only me, who dislikes 95% of the design decision of Google products in the recent years?

There are so many things that bother me about contemporary UI in general, I ranted on here the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24965293 I sincerely feel that the discipline of building user interfaces is long lost and perhaps never to come back. From car dashboards to loud typography, the whole field is regressing. Minimalism, too much white space, infantilization of users, design trends, loss of pred…

Minimalism, too much white space

Those two tend to be related. It really angers me every time I see a huge amount of whitespace for no good reason, but then most of the functionality is hidden behind a dropdown menu whose equally stupid '...' indicator only shows up when you happen to hover over it. WTF.

Back when UIs were still good, things would usually be hidden only if there wasn't enough space. You could see almost everything you needed at a glance. The "designers" dismiss that as "messy" and "clutter", which is frankly absurd --- something functional is not going to look "clean", much like a machine shop that's in active use: Tools and parts are laid out everywhere, because the user needs access to them.

That diskprices.com site is great. Craigslist is another one that comes to mind. The only thing it's missing is a "submit" button for those who have JS disabled... otherwise it's a perfect example of extremely functional design that wasn't ruined by "UI/UX designers".

Re: Google Images Restored

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Post by lolc »

aaron695 wrote: post #50

PirateBay for images is back! Not complaining, I love using the PirateBay to steal. I also don't makeup reasons I do it. It's for theft, because getting something of value for free feels good.

You think that downloading an image is stealing?

Re: Google Images Restored

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Post by arp242 »

NoSorryCannot wrote: post #48
_underfl0w_ wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not the parent poster but I see where they're coming from - form used to purely _follow_ function in computer UI/UX (as in most engineering fields) but now it's been delegated to "creatives" who, by virtue of their skill set, put form first. Overall "betterness" is subjective, but speaking as someone who uses a computer as a tool I can honestly say I'd prefer it to function pragmatically than look pretty, if the…

I'm not sure I see any reason to expect or believe that engineers would make good ui/ux decisions. It's not clear to me that choices that are simple for engineering are necessarily even aligned with ultimately being functional. A good ui/ux specialist will be interested in reducing error rates and improving ease of discovery and use through affordances and good organization of information and actions. Obviously other…

I think the shift in recent years has been from "UI designers" to "graphic designers". There is a massive difference between the two, but also a lot of conflation. Computer programmers may not be the best UI designers, but graphic designers are even less so, and the "but my art!" graphic designers are the absolute worst.

Re: Google Images Restored

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Post by userbinator »

rajacombinator wrote: post #71
nostromo wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This soulless corporate style of illustration not a single person likes: https://www.imgur.com/DcL05OA.gif (This could be a subset of infantilization, since this art style seems to come from books for toddlers.)

What is the name for this abhorrent trend, and how did it originate and become ubiquitous?

"Corporate Memphis": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22890877

Re: Google Images Restored

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Post by 0xfffafaCrash »

rajacombinator wrote: post #71
nostromo wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This soulless corporate style of illustration not a single person likes: https://www.imgur.com/DcL05OA.gif (This could be a subset of infantilization, since this art style seems to come from books for toddlers.)

What is the name for this abhorrent trend, and how did it originate and become ubiquitous?

It's a "flat design" vector art style inspired by the work of the Memphis Group that's called "Corporate Memphis" primarily by critics. While Hacker News is apparently too sophisticated to be condescended to with simplistic animations that look good at very different resolutions, I think a lot of people like it.

If everyone hated this and considered it "corporate," it wouldn't be the one used by some of the animation studios that create the most popular content (e.g. Kurzgesagt).

Re: Google Images Restored

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Post by userbinator »

syndacks wrote: post #52
errantspark wrote: post #11

Fuck Getty Images. Fuck IP law. Fuck copyright. All that shit needs a massive refactor. I can't bear to think about how much harm has been done to software and human reality in general by lawyers and MBAs seeking to extract the maximum amount of value from things. I'm glad things like this exist, but so sad that they need to. EDIT: and as one commenter astutely pointed out, fuck Pintrest too, a perfect example of the…

We wouldn't have modern civilization without IP law. Curious how you make a living; if it's like anything like the vast majority of the people on this site, or society in general for that matter, it's rooted in laws protecting theft of intellectual property.

China isn't "modern civilization"...? ;-)

https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=284

Re: Google Images Restored

#79

Post by cvuls »

arp242 wrote: post #75
NoSorryCannot wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure I see any reason to expect or believe that engineers would make good ui/ux decisions. It's not clear to me that choices that are simple for engineering are necessarily even aligned with ultimately being functional. A good ui/ux specialist will be interested in reducing error rates and improving ease of discovery and use through affordances and good organization of information and actions. Obviously other…

I think the shift in recent years has been from "UI designers" to "graphic designers". There is a massive difference between the two, but also a lot of conflation. Computer programmers may not be the best UI designers, but graphic designers are even less so, and the "but my art!" graphic designers are the absolute worst.

a main tenet of graphic design is sacrificing your art for functionality. i'm not sure what designers you've been speaking to, but i doubt they're professionals.

Re: Google Images Restored

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Post by ceejayoz »

gkoberger wrote: post #26
markdown wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Getty charges $1000 for public domain photos. Fuck 'em! EDIT: They also fraudulently claim to own public domain photos and legally threaten people who use them, demanding payment.

I don't understand your point. If you hate copyright and IP, then you inherently also have to believe Getty should be allowed to take public domain photos (or someone else's photos) and sell them.

They have the right to sell them. I'm not sure it's ethical to do so for $1k/image.

It's definitely not OK that they billed the photographer who took the public domain photos for using them on her own site. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_M._Highsmith#Getty_Image...

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