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Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

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Post by newbie578 »

neya wrote: post #4

"Twilio put out at midnight last night. In that Press Release, Twilio accidentally revealed which services Parler was using. Turns out it was all of the security authentications that were used to register a user. This allowed anyone to create a user, and not have to verify an email address, and immediately have a logged-on account. Well, because of that access, it gave them access to the behind the login box API that…

You said it nicely. At the end of the day, we all look after ourselves the most, and one cannot avoid thinking what if this happened to our company?

Twilio as a B2B doesn't gain a lot from being a "woke" company and following the trend of lynching Parler, on the contrary this can and will scream how Twilio can put your whole platform down overnight..

I wonder when are we going to see a legal discussion if / when internet access is going to become a basic human right? Just like electricity became ubiquitous, I expect internet access (email, payment processing, etc) to also become a right.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

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Post by rndholesqpeg »

Aeolun wrote: post #57
traveler01 wrote: post #41

I don't know why but what's happening to Parler doesn't feel right at all...

I agree. As much as I feel it should be taken down, this has all the makings of a (corporate) lynch mob.

I guess you dont get the irony of using 'Lynch Mob' figuratively, because Parler was de-platformed for helping organize literal Lynch Mobs

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

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Post by cbozeman »

mikewarot wrote: post #47

AWS gives 5Gbps connectivity to instances, according to https://docs.aws.amazon.com/whitepapers/latest/ec2-networkin... So, if the sum total of Parler was 70 Terabytes, as claimed... the transfer time would be 38 hours, if it was hosted on one instance... but it obviously wasn't. It was more likely only a matter of minutes. This shows a new type of cloud hosting vulnerability. Your entire corporations infrastructure…

> This shows a new type of cloud hosting vulnerability. Your entire corporations infrastructure could be mirrored faster than you could notice.

This is actually fucking terrifying.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

#74

Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

traveler01 wrote: post #41

I don't know why but what's happening to Parler doesn't feel right at all...

I think that's what's happening is that the big tech cos have had conversations with their lawyers along the lines of "it's one thing to host talk of insurrection from Bob in Knoxville when it looks like cosplay fantasising, but it's another to host it after they killed an on duty police officer while storming the Capitol building with intent to kill senators". The provider's potential liability in planning high crimes will tend to focus minds in a way way that "hosting deplorable speech" did not.

I'm not suggesting that the deplorable speech was mere harmless fantasising, as it seldom is, on a long-enough timeline. Just that this justification is manifestly no longer tenable.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

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Post by cbozeman »

AniseAbyss wrote: post #70
traveler01 wrote: post #41

I don't know why but what's happening to Parler doesn't feel right at all...

Tech companies are shutting the Trump movement down because of public pressure. Its no different from any other boycott in that sense. Capitol Hill riot was the classic "free speech but not free from consequences" moment. Association with conservatives is now a financial liability.

> Association with conservatives is now a financial liability.

Considering they make up an enormous percentage of the population, I'm not sure that's a sound strategic move.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

#76

Post by kjakm »

newbie578 wrote: post #71
neya wrote: post #4

"Twilio put out at midnight last night. In that Press Release, Twilio accidentally revealed which services Parler was using. Turns out it was all of the security authentications that were used to register a user. This allowed anyone to create a user, and not have to verify an email address, and immediately have a logged-on account. Well, because of that access, it gave them access to the behind the login box API that…

You said it nicely. At the end of the day, we all look after ourselves the most, and one cannot avoid thinking what if this happened to our company? Twilio as a B2B doesn't gain a lot from being a "woke" company and following the trend of lynching Parler, on the contrary this can and will scream how Twilio can put your whole platform down overnight.. I wonder when are we going to see a legal discussion if / when inte…

>> I wonder when are we going to see a legal discussion if / when internet access is going to become a basic human right? Just like electricity became ubiquitous, I expect internet access (email, payment processing, etc) to also become a right.

Is electricity a right?

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

#77

Post by AniseAbyss »

Traster wrote: post #66
Yetanfou wrote: post #45

If there is one lesson to be learned from these last few weeks it is that you can not rely on any external service if you do anything which goes against the dominant political narrative. I have never been on Parler's site so I can not check the veracity of their supposed implied or direct support for seditious acts but that does not seem to matter anyway, it is enough to stand accused to be considered a witch and bur…

> if you do anything which goes against the dominant political narrative I'm so tired of this. The reason people are getting banned from these platforms and services isn't because of just run of the mill political views. They're getting banned because they are hosting content calling for the violent overthrow of the US government. Apple didn't ban Parler from the app store for their attitude towards capital gains tax…

America is going off the deep end. Who would have believed 10 years ago that members of Congress would dispute the outcome of the elections?

What was once extreme and crazy is now the new normal.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

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Post by Daho0n »

kjakm wrote: post #76
newbie578 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You said it nicely. At the end of the day, we all look after ourselves the most, and one cannot avoid thinking what if this happened to our company? Twilio as a B2B doesn't gain a lot from being a "woke" company and following the trend of lynching Parler, on the contrary this can and will scream how Twilio can put your whole platform down overnight.. I wonder when are we going to see a legal discussion if / when inte…

>> I wonder when are we going to see a legal discussion if / when internet access is going to become a basic human right? Just like electricity became ubiquitous, I expect internet access (email, payment processing, etc) to also become a right. Is electricity a right?

Not in the US, no.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

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Post by emilsedgh »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #55
Yetanfou wrote: post #45

If there is one lesson to be learned from these last few weeks it is that you can not rely on any external service if you do anything which goes against the dominant political narrative. I have never been on Parler's site so I can not check the veracity of their supposed implied or direct support for seditious acts but that does not seem to matter anyway, it is enough to stand accused to be considered a witch and bur…

There's going against the dominant political narrative, and there's organizing and committing federal crimes like breaking and entering into congress. You have freedom of speech and the government cannot arrest you from saying things on the internet. However, organizing a raid on the government will get you in trouble, and never forget that nobody is obligated to give you a platform.

You have freedom of speech and the government cannot arrest you from saying things on the internet. However, organizing a raid on the government will get you in trouble, and never forget that nobody is obligated to give you a platform.

This sums the whole thing up pretty neatly.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

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Post by asutekku »

atemerev wrote: post #44
LarvaFX wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, sure buddy. Financed by the Mercers[1], are you kidding me. [1] https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/15/media/rebekah-mercer-parl...

So what? The operation could have been approved only in the last few weeks or so. It is this "account verification" thing that convinced me. Even Facebook does not encourage you to upload a driving license, ffs.

I mean, if you don't remember your password to Facebook you do need to provide your driving license: https://www.facebook.com/help/contact/183000765122339
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