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Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Post by alphabettsy »

abernard1 wrote: post #66
alphabettsy wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Banks accounts? All internet presence? Neither of those things is happening. They still have websites, not to mention a press secretary with the world’s press at their feet. Minimizing it to just wrong opinions? NAMBLA, look it up, is still around so stating this is about wrong opinions is ignorant. I’m fairly certain that attempting to overthrow the government to get your desired election result is fascism. Saying w…

> I’m fairly certain that attempting to overthrow the government to get your desired election result is fascism. I can't believe I'm actually going to go to this topic, but your argument has been made before with the Reichstag Fire [1]. Using threats of violence as a pretext for assuming more government control is a tactic as old as governments. > The Nazi Party used the fire as a pretext to claim that communists wer…

I’m well aware. Can you point to the government control please.

Private companies using their liberty to deny service to the leader of the United States government seems like freedom to me.

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Post by moomin »

sacks2k wrote: post #26

The people cheering this on will not be protected when the mob comes for you. We live in a digital age. If having the wrong opinion means you can get your bank accounts and all Internet presence removed from you, it's not any different than living under a fascist government.

You should probably look up what the hallmarks of fascism are sometime. It might surprise you.

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Post by bluesign »

alphabettsy wrote: post #53
sacks2k wrote: post #26

The people cheering this on will not be protected when the mob comes for you. We live in a digital age. If having the wrong opinion means you can get your bank accounts and all Internet presence removed from you, it's not any different than living under a fascist government.

Banks accounts? All internet presence? Neither of those things is happening. They still have websites, not to mention a press secretary with the world’s press at their feet. Minimizing it to just wrong opinions? NAMBLA, look it up, is still around so stating this is about wrong opinions is ignorant. I’m fairly certain that attempting to overthrow the government to get your desired election result is fascism. Saying w…

"Rudy Giuliani, made a reference to the HBO drama “Game of Thrones” when he called for a “trial by combat” while talking about conspiracy theories alleging massive scale voter fraud."

Game of Thrones???

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Post by jasonjayr »

eganist wrote: post #62
dantheman wrote: post #41

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wikileaks was mainly attacked through denial of access to the financial system. Would you be ok with Stripe stopping payment to the GOP?

> Would you be ok with Stripe stopping payment to the GOP? Has the GOP, specifically the GOP, advocated for the violent overthrow of the United States Government?

They're getting there.

> My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub. ~ Grover Norquest

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Post by grahamburger »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #56
claudiug wrote: post #31

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Wrong opinions? They ban nazi lovers

So you mean that 75M people who voted for trump are nazi lovers? I'm not American, but, wow. Be sure to always agree with your new ruling party, and vote as they say, or you might find yourself to be a nazi lover, too.

No one has been banned for voting for Trump. Those 75m people are fine, apart from the ones who stormed the capitol.

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Post by ashtonkem »

sacks2k wrote: post #26

The people cheering this on will not be protected when the mob comes for you. We live in a digital age. If having the wrong opinion means you can get your bank accounts and all Internet presence removed from you, it's not any different than living under a fascist government.

Spare us your outrage. A literal mob just overran the Capitol. Attempting to talk about “the mob” in opposition to the actual mobs that are continuing to take over Capitol buildings is frankly so tone deaf it’s almost insulting to our intelligence.

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Post by cpursley »

chillwaves wrote: post #36
sacks2k wrote: post #26

The people cheering this on will not be protected when the mob comes for you. We live in a digital age. If having the wrong opinion means you can get your bank accounts and all Internet presence removed from you, it's not any different than living under a fascist government.

Should I be worried? Probably not since I am not advocating for the violent overthrow of democracy in America.

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Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Post by jo032 »

nobody9999 wrote: post #39
jo032 wrote: post #17

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Hollywood is a private business as well. They were within their rights to make a blacklist. And people cheered on big business for protecting them and snitched on their friends to their employers, just like they're doing now

>Hollywood is a private business as well. They were within their rights to make a blacklist. And people cheered on big business for protecting them and snitched on their friends to their employers, just like they're doing now I'm not seeing the parallel to Stripe choosing who they want (or don't want) to do business with. Especially since there is no "blacklist" circulated and used by everyone in that industry. Strip…

when did I say Stripe didn't have the legal right to do this? I used the Hollywood blacklist as a parallel precisely because it too was a legal enforcement of political speech by a big consolidated industry that had the power to end peoples' careers

I only think it's morally wrong.

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Post by deepnotderp »

chillwaves wrote: post #36
sacks2k wrote: post #26

The people cheering this on will not be protected when the mob comes for you. We live in a digital age. If having the wrong opinion means you can get your bank accounts and all Internet presence removed from you, it's not any different than living under a fascist government.

Should I be worried? Probably not since I am not advocating for the violent overthrow of democracy in America.

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