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Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#72

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Why would you as a leader of the country leave it up to chance? What if your country was in conflict with America whose side do you think Google and Apple would side with?

I appreciate this point and it makes me think more and more about how we try to govern global businesses with national governments and how I wonder if we'll ever get a more powerful global body to balance the power of global organizations.

We will, and it will be a bad thing. Nowhere to run when it eventually goes corrupt and evil. Hopefully we will be space-faring before that.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#74

Does anyone else feel like we’re going down the path of internet Balkanization? Not in any immediate sense, but it seems like a slow rolling type of narrative that we will retrospectively see at the end of the 21st century. I don’t have any _real_ evidence to support this feeling of mine, but occasionally there are blips like this that make me wonder.

I don’t think so, but my guess is as bad as anyone else’s.

People have too many family members, coworkers, friends, etc. across country borders. There’s a high cost to cutting your country off from the rest of the internet in any real way. The cost of intercepting / controlling / severing internet communication is high and gets higher as communication volumes get higher, the economy relies more heavy on international communication, and encryption becomes more commonplace.

I do think we’re going to see a lot more geofencing as time goes on.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#75

> foreign values Not even foreign values. Only subset of foreign values which are only shared by the Silicon Valley. Beyond that, half the US people disagree with Google/Apple/Twitter/Facebook’s non-neutral stance on politics, who weighed their full weight in censoring 50% of the political spectrum. I will not call it the pied piper because Uganda weighs nothing, but the GAFA’s politics are now visible as directly ha…

> while censoring the 50% rest of the political spectrum Let's be clear: moderating/banning the accounts of a man and his supporters who invited tens of thousands of people to the United States Capitol, spent hours lying to them about the results of the election, and then weaponized them in an attempt to overthrow the US government is not a case of Twitter crossing some sort of threshold into tyranny. A grave crime w…

Ransacking through the capitol like imbeciles was very ill advised, but that’s not how a coup is executed. You need dedicated backers [cause oriented willing to sacrifice] high up in the armed forces as well as the intelligentsia.

Rag tag groups do not execute coups. That’s a willful exaggeration and further evidence of how narratives tilt people’s thinking.

This is the media and social media calling it that -they cannot help it. Are the armed forces classifying as a coup? It’s a ridiculous accusation. More of a coup attempt is the call for impeachment with two weeks left after the previous impeachment failed. It’s honestly sad.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#76
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meaning Epic is right: the Apple Store dependency and monopoly is abusive.

If you choose to buy something like that, how is it ‘abuse’?

Sure, but there are only two choices.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#77

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"The internet" is both browser based web pages as well as various mobile phone based apps.

what critical stuff is not avaliable via web browser but is via app?

Banking, for one.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#78
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> while censoring the 50% rest of the political spectrum Let's be clear: moderating/banning the accounts of a man and his supporters who invited tens of thousands of people to the United States Capitol, spent hours lying to them about the results of the election, and then weaponized them in an attempt to overthrow the US government is not a case of Twitter crossing some sort of threshold into tyranny. A grave crime w…

Ransacking through the capitol like imbeciles was very ill advised, but that’s not how a coup is executed. You need dedicated backers [cause oriented willing to sacrifice] high up in the armed forces as well as the intelligentsia. Rag tag groups do not execute coups. That’s a willful exaggeration and further evidence of how narratives tilt people’s thinking. This is the media and social media calling it that -they ca…

Honestly I feel bad for the people who were duped into doing the ransacking. They thought their leader was telling them the truth.

The fact remains that the President gathered tens of thousands of people and, with a torrent of lies, weaponized them into an attack on the United States. Just because it failed doesn't make it any less grave of a crime.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#79

Time to decentralize everything

It’s not fully decentralized, but I’d love to see Signal take on some Twitter and Facebook use cases.

It's 0% decentralized. Banning the president on Signal would not be hard.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#80
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What Trump was doing was extreme, but stories like might make you think twice about enthusiasm for censorship.

What if I’m enthusiastically against censorship and enthusiastically for deplatforming in cases like Trump? Which makes me strongly dislike the news in the post.

Then you’re not against censorship.
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