I didn’t see Twitter Live having that same feature. Is it hidden somewhere?
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
It hasn't been Twitter's until Twitter bought it a few years back. It's yet another one of the acquire - erase stories deserving a spot on Our Incredible Journey blog. [1] https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/
It was acquired before launch
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#73Twitter seems to keep failing at these acquisitions. Hence we can give Zuck some credit for the continued success of Instagram, WhatsApp and Occulus. If Twitter has been successful with Vine and Periscope, they would have had successes as big as TikTok and Zoom. Ironically, there would be calls to break-up Twitter today.
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#74Twitter seems to keep failing at these acquisitions. Hence we can give Zuck some credit for the continued success of Instagram, WhatsApp and Occulus. If Twitter has been successful with Vine and Periscope, they would have had successes as big as TikTok and Zoom. Ironically, there would be calls to break-up Twitter today.
Twitter's CEO is basically an absentee leader, time-splitting with his other company which actually makes money and spending his free hours sucking up to rappers because he is desperate not to appear as an uncool white guy. Is it any shock that their strategy is garbage?
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#75Will this be like Vine > Tiktok all over again?
I used to follow Brian Goulet of fountain pen fame on Periscope. I think either he stopped streaming or I stopped watching when Twitter bought Periscope and stopped letting people easily record their streams by sending them to a recording service. Since then, I've not heard one mention of Periscope in my local circles, which is only anecdotes, but my point is that there is definitely room for a startup to redo the sa…
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#77I'm not sure why Twitter abandoned Vine but I think it had to do with feed moderation, that they didn't have the resources and infrastructure in place to moderate illegal content. At least there were some noise over underage porn trying to dodge filters and banned keywords in media some time before they pulled the plug. If so, that reeks of misunderstanding the potential and not just throwing cash at the problem. They obviously have what's necessary in place over at Twitter.com and they aren't novices at this, so just... why. I remember seeing everyone from Game of Thrones cast members to comedians to just random people being enthusiastic over it. They were sitting on a gold mine and didn't even fight.
Periscope was also cool in a different way. I could click on a map at some person in Scandinavia and see her live stream stuff as she was talking a walk on the snow clad streets.
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#78Strange how neither Periscope nor Vine, both getting pretty popular early on (lots of celebrities used Vine and Twitter were getting quite some traction) are now no more. Meanwhile Musicaly/TikTok did the basically same once more, and what do you know, there was a demand all along. Twitter could have been running "today's TikTok" and it's an incredible blunder. I'm not sure why Twitter abandoned Vine but I think it h…
It doesn’t require an account, works on any browser (including mobile) and lets you see snaps from anywhere in the world. It didn’t fully scratch my itch like I think that periscope feature would have. I’m a little sad to have just learned about it today.
Btw, my favorite places to check out on the snap map are rural arctic countries. It’s so cool to see people in their cozy houses sharing pictures of their local food. It also blows my mind that their lives are not much different than mine, except they have a foreboding icy world right outside their doors lol
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
The most plausible explanation, to me, is that operating the product was not considered the primary purpose of the acquisition.
To be less subtle: it's to eliminate competition. If my neighbor has a nice big cow, it's not crucial for me to obtain that cow for myself; it suffices that it die, while my cows live.
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#80This, I suppose, is unexpected. It reflects a similar fate of a lot of technology plays that grew fast. I would like to reflect however on this comment in the article -- "The truth is that the Periscope app is in an unsustainable maintenance-mode state, and has been for a while. Over the past couple of years, we’ve seen declining usage and know that the cost to support the app will only continue to go up over time."…
> how is it that you go 5 years after acquisition and NOT retire the technical debt? That seems like the most simple thing in the world to me- you just ignore it. Have you ever talked to a product manager about "technical debt"? Newsflash- they don't give a shit. I don't know how things are run at Twitter but in general, people want to do "impactful" things and get promoted/get raises. Paying down technical debt is t…
Eng manager turned product manager here.
It's not that we don't give a shit - but paying down the debt isn't always worth it. For example in this case, if they always knew they were going to wind down Periscope (or at least that it wasn't strategic compared to what they were doing with Twitter) then investing deeply into it would have just been a waste.
Here's an example.
You buy a house in the spring. You know the heating system is very old and will likely fail soon (technical debt.) Should you invest in it?
The answer is "it depends." If you plan to live in this house for a long time, then yes because the last thing you want is for heat to fail in the middle of next winter.
However, what if this is just your summer residence? Suddenly fixing the heat is much less urgent (you still have the debt but the risk of it coming due in a very bad way is much less.)
Or, you bought the house for the land and plan to tear it down. You would be stupid to fix the heat.
I think the Periscope situation is much closer to that last thing. They bought it for something other than the stand-alone Periscope product so throwing a bunch of resources at it didn't make sense. Which isn't the same as not giving a shit.