Back to SMS.
dont use SMS, even sending an email from a public cyber coffe is safer than an SMS this days
Do you think that Facebook users worry much about their privacy?
Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365
A lot more than with SMS. You can send someone an SMS but they are not going to respond because either they cost money or they have some tiny allowance of them.
What is the limit of SMS allowance on your network?
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#73Instagram DMs are also affected.
Instagram DMs got merged with FB Messenger recently.
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#75That explains all the new Telegram contacts :P
It makes me sad those aren't new Signal users :(
I know Telegram is less secure and Secret Chats are an opt-in. Security-wise Signal would be better... but:
Signal experience isn't that good. Alien from the platform they run on. For example, no system recommendations to send this person a message or share something with them through signal.. Telegram is more a platform native and integrated into the system.
Also there is the issue of messages arriving late (not minutes but hours late, sometimes days late)
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
It makes me sad those aren't new Signal users :(
Signal needs to up its game. The experience is very far from being as polished as Telegram.
I wish Telegram secret conversations carried over to multiple devices. This is a thing I don't have to worry about with Signal or WhatsApp.
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#77Instagram DMs are also affected.
Who uses Instagram DMing btw?
I find it funny how every single service builds out a community infrastructure, complete with messaging for near-synchronous and more async communication.
I've always been a fan of distributed resiliency but when it comes to basic communications, I don't have the time or motivation to hunt down the service and method of communication within that service some person chooses to use. I much prefer ubiquitous communication, at least from a user interaction stand-point.
Older messenger applications often supported handfuls to dozens of popular communication systems so you could interact with one touch point/interface, and coukd still benefit from the fact the marketplace was forcing some competition while your communication wouldn't be strangled by some single private entity's policies or actions.
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#78Whatsapp is extremely dominant in my country, but I keep encouraging friends and acquaintances to install Telegram. As far as I know, there won't be anything preventing FB from geoblocking European users when the company eventually gets in some serious trouble, like it just did in the US.
Why telegram and not signal?
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#79Quick, build a competitor
My self-hosted XMPP-Server seems to work without problems ;-)
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I laughed at this because I thought the same thing. Conspiratorial or no, that line of argument won't fly. Saying everything is so integrated that it can't possibly be decentralized is basically proof of monopoly.
IIRC this is exactly what MS claimed about bundling IE : it was tied into the kernel.
To be fair IE crashing would take out the whole OS.