Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

Post by khalilravanna » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 2:57 PM UTC

sorenjan wrote: post #40

ubercow13 wrote: post #33

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I don't think it is just that. Google is just shockingly bad at web frontend. All their properties are terrible, except maybe Youtube which I find quite agreeable. For example I just made a search on google.com, the most popular website in the world, and it can't even fit the content into this reasonably sized window [1]. [1] https://i.imgur.com/ER5yfbd.png

Which large companies aren't bad at web frontend? UX seems to always be far down on the list or priorities for modern websites.

Post by alisonkisk » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 2:58 PM UTC

Fiveplus wrote: post #35

Can a googler chime in to explain why Gmail is so slow at loading even on the most robust PCs with high speed internet?

Post by bassman9000 » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 2:59 PM UTC

graderjs wrote: post #53

The medium is the message. In some domains, slow and clunky feels like gravitas and reliability. Enterprise software. Enterprise recruiting software. AWS has a pretty slow, and clunky dashboard. AdSense is clunky. A lot of the biggest companies' flagship apps have a very bland "bureaucratic" look and feel. You may find it hard to believe, but Zuck wanted facebook to look like a government database for a long time, wh…

Post by influx » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 3:00 PM UTC

midrus wrote: post #44

random3 wrote: post #39

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As a developer you should 1) have the fastest possible code / test cycle - i.e. it's worth overpaying for faster machines 2) treat performance as a feature and formally measure it across configurations

I've worked for many companies, small and large, corporate and startups. None of them had performance as a priority, or even considered at the product level. Any minimal performance optimization or win we had was because a developer cared enough for it.... but maybe I'm the only one and just had bad luck with the product managers/owners I had.

Post by levosmetalo » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 3:01 PM UTC

gravypod wrote: post #63

levosmetalo wrote: post #23

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Why is everyone assuming that just because someone works for Google has to be competent? Solving algorithmic puzzles is not an indicator or actual technical skills. To me, it looks like a work of incompetent developers led by incompetent technical managers upon requirements of clueless and ignorant product managers.

Cloud service providers aren't really optimizing for the same thing that the average website is optimizing for. They're attempting to maximize their velocity, maximize their API stability, and make programmatic usage of their system as easy as possible. GCP's UI? Yea it's pretty bad. GCP's terraform provider? It's really slick. Probably the best one of the bunch (Azure, AWS, Oracle, OVH, ...).