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Bret Victor on working at Apple.

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Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.

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It would be awesome if Bret wasn't using so many CSS3 effects on his site, causing my iOS browser to crash repeatedly.

iPhone 4, iOS 4.3 - Site works great (well, besides the slow, initial load time...) In fact, compared to my desktop browser, I prefer the transitions on my phone! Much, much smoother!

*Edit - Commented too soon. Just crashed it playing around with the horizontal scroll area at the top. Navigating around seems to take its toll on the browser. Oh well.

Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.

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Why, the beautiful all-black page I get loading it without js enabled is quite elegant. I might well not have read the page, but I certainly appreciated it.

It's just the hash-bang links that break with JavaScript disabled. If you visit the home page with JavaScript disabled (or IE-enabled, heh...), you're actually good to go: http://worrydream.com/Apple/ Personally, I think it's a gorgeous site; An amazing example of interactive front-end web development. It amazes me to think that just a few years ago, the only real option for this interactivity would have been Flash.

It's less broken, say, than Twitter, where many legacy non-#! links became redirects to #! links.

But the whole thing is like the thinking that "This site works best with IE 5.0" -and, naturally, is crippled for everyone else- is a reasonable approach to web design. And at least those sites warned us about what the pain they caused and why - this UI is more like visiting a Flash-only webpage in 1998.

Have these guys never heard of the noscript tag? No, wait: weirdly enough, Bret Victor actually uses the noscript tag to govern which CSS file is loaded. That is, no doubt, why the featureless black webpage I am presented with is so uniquely appealing a featureless black webpage.

Telling NotScripts to temporarily allow Javascript to look at the site shows a website with very nice graphic design and awful usability. Which is very much what I expected.

Javascript often offers the same usability experience as Flash. That's why I disable it by default.

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