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Was pretty decent till I got to "I have a particular line of questioning around this" Now we equate "giving a shit" to how many hours you put in. Should we just go back to counting lines of code to view effort?
I have a genuine question and I'm not trying to be snarky -- do people actually think this way in real life, or is it an elaborate social game of pretending to be more "passionate" than the next guy? Scale seems like a cool company with an interesting product, but let's be honest, rational people here - they aren't curing cancer, creating art, or landing on Normandy Beach. This seems obvious to any self-aware person.…
> "I have a genuine question and I'm not trying to be snarky -- do people actually think this way in real life, or is it an elaborate social game of pretending to be more "passionate" than the next guy?" We have a slight issue with 'identity' in the US. I need to read more Tocqueville before I really start espousing any diagnostic on the psyche of the US but... This type of mindset is what occurs when someone searche…
"Giving a shit" is orthogonal to working long hours. As a part of my job, I hire people and one thing I tell all candidates is: "I expect you to care about your work. This does not mean that you have to work evenings or weekends. But while you are working, you should care about doing a good job."
It's certainly partially about believing that you are working on the right thing, but mainly about believing the craft matters.
Not a native speaker, but for me "giving a shit" doesn't sound like you really care for something. Ok, it's (maybe) better than "not giving a shit", which is nothing at all, but it's not much more than the bare minimum...
Lots of hours at this place eh?
>What’s the hardest you’ve ever worked on something?
What happened to work smart not hard? Also what exactly does it mean to work hard as a developer?
>How many hours were you working a week?
Hours again eh? Sounds like this place has absolutely no work-life balance and just burns everyone out. To whose benefit? Oh right only the benefit of the CEO.
>For example, it’s absolutely shocking that the common paradigm for engineers at Google is to come in at 11am and leave at 4pm. In no world can you be working 5 hours a day and be giving a shit, and so the conclusion is that very little meaningful work gets done at Google.
This has to be the dumbest thing I have read in ages.
Google has a market capitalization of 1.2 trillion. They have extensive research into how to treat employees to maximize their productivity. If you think google is doing it wrong, you are indeed the one doing it wrong.
> lack of office attires
You can tell this guy has a dress code. Even General Motors the place of 10 layers of bureaucracy discovered they dont need a dress code.
Working for this guy sounds like a nightmare.
And the inverse: have a business which is worthy of shit-giving. It’s extremely hard to give a shit about Yet Another Middleware CRUD CRM Layer Corp. There’s a fine balancing point between working a bullshit job ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs ) and recognizing that no, the B-Ark ( https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Golgafrinchan_Ark_Fleet_... ) is a bad idea, we really do need telephone handset saniti…
This is a corollary. The inverse would be "hire people who don't give a shit."
This statement shows how anti-worker this guy is. Good on such a Googler.
If you encounter a leader (like this guy) that thinks working hard for 8 hours a day is bare minimum (like this guy), do _not_ give them your labor if you can avoid it. You only have one life, so don't waste it making guys like this far richer than they would ever make you.
I hope plenty of BigCo and startup (especially Scale) employees are shaving hours with no repercussions thanks to Covid remote work. Such a huge effective hourly wage bump, and the only things harmed are corporations and their leaders (abstractly and relatively.)
I have a genuine question and I'm not trying to be snarky -- do people actually think this way in real life, or is it an elaborate social game of pretending to be more "passionate" than the next guy? Scale seems like a cool company with an interesting product, but let's be honest, rational people here - they aren't curing cancer, creating art, or landing on Normandy Beach. This seems obvious to any self-aware person.…
> "I have a genuine question and I'm not trying to be snarky -- do people actually think this way in real life, or is it an elaborate social game of pretending to be more "passionate" than the next guy?" We have a slight issue with 'identity' in the US. I need to read more Tocqueville before I really start espousing any diagnostic on the psyche of the US but... This type of mindset is what occurs when someone searche…
Not a native speaker, but for me "giving a shit" doesn't sound like you really care for something. Ok, it's (maybe) better than "not giving a shit", which is nothing at all, but it's not much more than the bare minimum...
I think maybe ‘not giving a shit’ existed as a turn of phrase first, and ‘giving a shit’ is sometimes used (incorrectly in the grammatical sense, but ok in the colloquial sense) as the complete negation/opposite.