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The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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layoutIfNeeded wrote: post #60
kodah wrote: post #55

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disrupted:_My_Misadventure_i... > FBI documents accessed by journalists via a freedom of information request revealed that HubSpot attempted "multiple failed attempts to manipulate and extort people” with the intention of stopping the book's publication. > HubSpot executives considered the book "a financial threat to HubSpot, its share price, and the company’s future potential." I'm in…

Off topic: why is "Black" capitalized but "gay" is not? What's the rule here? I'm not a native English speaker, sorry!

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Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by pseudalopex »

layoutIfNeeded wrote: post #60
kodah wrote: post #55

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disrupted:_My_Misadventure_i... > FBI documents accessed by journalists via a freedom of information request revealed that HubSpot attempted "multiple failed attempts to manipulate and extort people” with the intention of stopping the book's publication. > HubSpot executives considered the book "a financial threat to HubSpot, its share price, and the company’s future potential." I'm in…

Off topic: why is "Black" capitalized but "gay" is not? What's the rule here? I'm not a native English speaker, sorry!

Cultural groups are capitalized most of the time. It's like Native American or Latino. White is an exception because most white people think of themselves as Norwegian or whatever. Gay isn't capitalized most of the time because most gay people don't think of themselves as Gay.

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by Tade0 »

commandlinefan wrote: post #69
Tade0 wrote: post #65

Just recently I started working at the sixth place in my 9-year career(excluding side jobs), so I am somewhat cynical. Here's the main problem with having a culture code: It's often created and agreed upon by a clique of employees who've been working there for years - newcomers get a say inversely proportional to the number of employees they encountered on their first day. The best culture I participated in was in a…

"We're super inclusive! We ooze inclusivity! We've never been non-inclusive ever, not even once!" This whole thing reminds me of a post I saw on reddit a few days ago: My 4-year-old: "Daddy, I didn't go peepee anywhere in the house. I just want you to know that."

And most of time these declarations are true initially, but with staff rotation that erodes away eventually.

Also yeah - major red flag.

EDIT: Good culture doesn't require this kind of posturing.

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by switch007 »

MrPowers wrote: post #53

There are lots of different cultures and culture codes tend to emphasize the notion of "having a single culture". I am from New York and spend most of my time in Colombia. My English speaking New York personality and Spanish speaking Colombian personality have diverged quite significantly. I am a lot more indirect in Spanish. I'll rarely say "no" in Spanish for example. I'll always try to rephrase it as "yes, but we…

IMO "culture" when used by companies in this sense synthetic, fake. It's an invention. It's not meant to incorporate the cultures of employees: it's designed to help hire people who match their set of rules. They definitely want a single "culture".

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by diveanon »

xkcd-sucks wrote: post #63
nomadrat wrote: post #14

Love the product, but this deck... jeez. It's like all this companies that claim that you're in the family and then this family ask you to leave. I've seen too much places with "culture" when in reality it's a toxic as hell.

One is most likely to be molested as a child by a family member, and, most of these companies prefer young hires

You're getting downvoted but this is exactly on point.

Places that emphasize culture usually do so to compensate for their other failings.

As an older dev I don't really care about culture, but instead prioritize boundaries, compensation, and tech maturity.

Keep your ping pong table, give me a 9-5.

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by gedy »

jerrycruncher wrote: post #68
layoutIfNeeded wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off topic: why is "Black" capitalized but "gay" is not? What's the rule here? I'm not a native English speaker, sorry!

It's a very recent development in the language; one of the ripples that radiated out from the George Floyd protests. The NY Times hosted a piece that explains the reasoning behind it: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/05/insider/capitalized-black...

> It's a very recent development in the language

Minor quibble, but political opinion, not "language".

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by layoutIfNeeded »

pseudalopex wrote: post #72
layoutIfNeeded wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off topic: why is "Black" capitalized but "gay" is not? What's the rule here? I'm not a native English speaker, sorry!

Cultural groups are capitalized most of the time. It's like Native American or Latino. White is an exception because most white people think of themselves as Norwegian or whatever. Gay isn't capitalized most of the time because most gay people don't think of themselves as Gay.

Ah I get it now! So "Black" means "African American" basically, but "black" would be used for dark-skinned people worldwide.

As a foreigner, I find it fascinating how nuanced the seemingly simple English language can be!

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by lqet »

scandox wrote: post #49

Old World--------------------| New World--------------------| Me------------------------------- -----------------------------|-------------------------------|---------------------------------- Work to make a living | Work to make a difference | Nope [1] Follow explicit instructions | Chart the course | Depends on the role [2] Juggle work and life | Harmonize work and life | Sounds like: never stop working Commute int…

There you go:

           Old World           |          New World            |                Me
  -----------------------------|-------------------------------|----------------------------------
  Work to make a living        | Work to make a difference     | Nope [1]
  Follow explicit instructions | Chart the course              | Depends on the role [2]
  Juggle work and life         | Harmonize work and life       | Sounds like: never stop working
  Commute into work            | Connect to work from anywhere | Sounds like: never stop working
  Value amazing perks          | Value amazing people          | I like people, even unamazing ones
[1] I am not knocking making a difference, but that isn't the organizational imperative of any business. And it is a dangerous delusion to say it is.

[2] I learnt a lot following orders at different times

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