why do people keep using this marketing fluff word "Apple Silicon"? should just call it Apple M1
M1 is just one model. Apple Silicon is the category. There will be many other M2, M2, M2X ... etc
Run x86 Apps (including homebrew) in the Terminal on Apple Silicon
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Re: Run x86 Apps (including homebrew) in the Terminal on Apple Silicon
#72Does Macports support Apple ARM? They have a Big Sur compatible version, so I'm inclined to think it can at least try compiling natively. https://www.macports.org/install.php
yes if a precompiled version doesn't exist it will compile on your machine
Re: Run x86 Apps (including homebrew) in the Terminal on Apple Silicon
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I looked through brew.sh. Apologies if I'm missing something, but I don't think I am. There's something really offensive about apple being too cheap to just pay some homebrew devs. And dumping the work of the arch swap onto charity effort.
I just linked you to the official page which shows what works and what doesn't work, and your response is that you're still right and everything works?
x0x0 sees that much is not working yet and it’s sad that Apple does not help by financing the effort.
Re: Run x86 Apps (including homebrew) in the Terminal on Apple Silicon
#74That won't help running Docker and VirtualBox. There's also a big chance VirtualBox will never make it to M1 ;(
Re: Run x86 Apps (including homebrew) in the Terminal on Apple Silicon
#75There's also the "arch" command, to run commands under rosetta2 I just installed Homebrew on my new m1 MacBook Air with: $ arch -x86_64 /bin/bash -c "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/in... )"
Stickiness of architecture is a change from how Rosetta worked in the PowerPC to Intel transition: in macOS Big Sur child processes will prefer the arch of the parent process if one is available to maximize compatibility. So for example launching x86_64 sh will cause a python invocation from that shell to also be x86_64.
The "arch" utility is your escape hatch to switch the preferred arch for the spawned process and all of its children.
Re: Run x86 Apps (including homebrew) in the Terminal on Apple Silicon
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Homebrew maintainer here. We don’t officially support Big Sur yet, but installing it via Rosetta will cause it to fetch x86 bottles instead of ARM ones. At least, that’s the plan.
Please make Homebrew’s telemetry opt-in instead of opt-out. I encourage you to follow the good example of how Debian runs popcon (popularity contest). By having your default be assuming user consent to surveillance, you have produced spyware that reports a user’s track log history to Google via IP geolocation and a persistent unique machine identifier included with the request to Google Analytics every time the user…
Would you mind sharing how you disable that?
Re: Run x86 Apps (including homebrew) in the Terminal on Apple Silicon
#77I wonder if Nix on macOS could become a better homebrew-killer by supporting Apple Silicon first. We already do aarch64-linux natively and some iOS cross compilation, so that should give us a head start.
Over here I’m dying to port ArchMac to aarch64, which should be reasonably quick... if I had access to Apple Silicon hardware.
Being a lonely maintainer means I’m a bit (a lot) late on package versions and some areas are hacking, but it works on Big Sur already. But then again I’m also most probably the sole user and only target audience given the popularity of alternatives.
Re: Run x86 Apps (including homebrew) in the Terminal on Apple Silicon
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please make Homebrew’s telemetry opt-in instead of opt-out. I encourage you to follow the good example of how Debian runs popcon (popularity contest). By having your default be assuming user consent to surveillance, you have produced spyware that reports a user’s track log history to Google via IP geolocation and a persistent unique machine identifier included with the request to Google Analytics every time the user…
Would you mind sharing how you disable that?
Re: Run x86 Apps (including homebrew) in the Terminal on Apple Silicon
#79I wonder if Nix on macOS could become a better homebrew-killer by supporting Apple Silicon first. We already do aarch64-linux natively and some iOS cross compilation, so that should give us a head start.
macports is a better homebrew-killer IMHO. Follows MacOS guidelines and frameworks, integrates with the MacOS way in terms of launch agents etc.
And especially it follows common Unix traditions - packages are installed in a system wide way without permission fuck-ups.
Re: Run x86 Apps (including homebrew) in the Terminal on Apple Silicon
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple deprecated direct access to system-provided interpreter installations, which is a good thing. Interpreter support was not and will not be a problem, the implication of the deprecation is you should install your own copy of those interpreters instead.
Yes, I understand that we can and should always install our own, and I have for years either with Homebrew or Conda. (Actually most of my development is python on Linux via Vagrant). But on the M1 Mini, out of the box, you can open Terminal, and python3 launches the Python 3.8 REPL. Python 2.7 also launches out of the box. So, can you explain what you mean by "direct access" not being allowed? I'm not following your…
Python 3.8 for example got moved from the base OS install to Xcode's command line toolset. For developers, that doesn't change much.