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Re: John Resig joins the Khan Academy

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I think "this method" is letting people absorb the main lecture/explanation at their own pace, freeing up teachers to focus on one on one assistance, identifying people who are struggling, focusing classes on mastery instead of minimum level competence (C students pass, but obviously have knowledge gaps), etc.

Cool. I'm curious how you'll implement it? Recently I took an Agile course at work where they had a similar method -- there was a 3 hour video that everyone was supposed to watch before the course. I'd say about 10% of people watched it.

It's not my method and I don't have any plans to implement it, I'm just parroting stuff I've heard about Khan Academy in use.

I think in your case the problem was multifaceted. First, it was a 3 hour video on Agile. Excessively long, probably boring, probably unnecessary (in my own experience, the agile methods are mostly to get managers to see the light, not the programmers). Second, there was probably little penalty for not watching it either. I've been through Scrum training, it was boring and "successful completion" mostly meant sitting in a room and not doing my actual job for a few days. Failing the course would have required more effort than completing it.

For schools, obviously they'll still be grading your work and ensuring mastery of the subject where not watching the lectures would probably reflect on homework and test scores pretty quickly as you advanced, they're also much shorter than 3 hours, where your attention is less likely to wander.

Re: John Resig joins the Khan Academy

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That line of reasoning makes sense. He specifically mentioned iPad - not tablets in general. When I think of the educational needs of tomorrow, I think of school districts like Los Angeles, where the drop out rate is ~33%. It's really hard for me to imagine a scenario where tablets are wide spread among students in the lower income areas of that district. Hopefully the iPad is just a kickoff point. One of my philosop…

"Hopefully the iPad is just a kickoff point." That's precisely it. Being who I am, I'm going to be building everything with Open Web technologies and most likely built on top of jQuery Mobile. The iPad is just serving as a good initial platform to target and test on before expanding massively. I wouldn't be surprised if much of the work that happens on the tablet version of the site gets back-ported to the main site…

Congrats on your new position! I love Kahn Academy.

Do you think there's any chance that Sal will open up contributions to other teachers? I believe that Kahn Academy could evolve into a MUCH better tool if Sal focused on establishing the curriculum (and which videos and exercises need to be developed), and allowed other people to submit videos from across the internet.

While it's cool that Sal is the sole instructor, he's not the world's best instructor, and I'm sure the overall product could be improved through contributions of others. And you could go from 2100 videos to 10,000 videos a LOT faster if you allowed others to contribute.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Re: John Resig joins the Khan Academy

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You don't plan for today, you plan for five years down the line. Tablet computers are likely to become as ubiquitous as desktops or laptops, it's purely a matter of time. Tablets are a much more useable form factor in classrooms, etc.

"Tablets are a much more useable form factor in classrooms, etc." why?

I'd imagine: Easy to store, easy to interface with, can be passed around, relatively cheap, easier software installation than some OS, don't take much desk space.

Anyone else other ideas?

Re: John Resig joins the Khan Academy

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Awesome to hear! Can you give us any information on how their grades have developed? Of course, kindling fun and excitement for education and science is already a great, if not the most important, achievement. But I'm curious about the effect, that was discussed here before [1]. Derek Muller claims [2], that these videos give a false illusion of understanding. If I get him right: If your kids don't feel a bit confuse…

The videos are just one part of the academy. There is a tree you progress through by passing off problems. Ten correct in a row marks you as proficient and you go to the next level. Every so often there is a review section with random problems from any earlier level. The entire system of instruction, practice, and review gives more than an illusion of understanding. My nine year old's grades have always been really g…

Thanks! I wasn't aware of that system. Can't wait till my nephew can watch Khan Academy ..

Re: John Resig joins the Khan Academy

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Cool. I'm curious how you'll implement it? Recently I took an Agile course at work where they had a similar method -- there was a 3 hour video that everyone was supposed to watch before the course. I'd say about 10% of people watched it.

It's not my method and I don't have any plans to implement it, I'm just parroting stuff I've heard about Khan Academy in use. I think in your case the problem was multifaceted. First, it was a 3 hour video on Agile. Excessively long, probably boring, probably unnecessary (in my own experience, the agile methods are mostly to get managers to see the light, not the programmers). Second, there was probably little penalt…

I definitely agree the problem was multifaceted. I also believe the problem runs very deep at the same time.

Even if the courses were 10 minutes each like Khan, I doubt the view rate would be increased by much in this case.

Also, it is true that there are no immediate and visible penalties for not watching it, though at the same time, being penalized through completely artificial means (chasing artificial targets, aka what happens in school) isn't healthy for anyone and I believe contributes to one of the major problems we're having.

Thirdly, I never was ensured mastery (or even pushed towards it) in any class I ever took. I was ensured a good grade if I jumped through the right hoops just how the teacher wanted it.

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