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Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by ognarb » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 4:22 PM UTC

rfvrgvegbegn wrote: post #63

ognarb wrote: post #3

I'm one of the Plasma Mobile developer and I would be happy to answer questions.

Hi, thanks for your work on Plasma Mobile. Android has an Hardware Abstraction Layer (Android HAL) that acts as a unique central clean definition of what the hardware provides and how to access it. It makes it easier for Android to remain HW agnostic and for HW vendor to be compatible with Android. Is there a similar effort on Linux ?

Plasma Mobile works fine on a mainline Linux kernel with a GNU userspace so there is no need to create an additional abstraction layer.

There is a project called Halium that allowed in the early days to run plasma mobile on top of the Android userspace, but we stopped working on it when all the plasma developers got their Pinephone and this was easier to work with.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by tluyben2 » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 4:24 PM UTC

swiley wrote: post #69

tluyben2 wrote: post #35

I got my pinephone (Manjaro) last week and tried all OSs there are for it; I really love the idea of having a real Linux device in my pocket (that's why I have the Pandora, Pyra + GPD pocket 1 as well); it is such a difference having full control and being able to change whatever how you work instead of having large corps decide. Also shows, by the 'missing apps' between ecosystems, how much we need replacements for…

If you want speech install festival just like you would on desktop.

Sorry! I meant calls, but thank you for the tip ; I did not know that either.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by radec » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 4:26 PM UTC

Glavnokoman wrote: post #7

Good news. But I'd love to see something in a smaller form-factor.

I agree. This project is fantastic. The only reason I haven't bought a pinephone is because the size. I hope the PineCom idea ends up being a size I can see carrying around.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by megous » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 4:28 PM UTC

swebs wrote: post #67

danielEM wrote: post #50

Love the idea of that phone! And would love it even more if: - it had 3 USB-C ports - out of which 2 were USB 3.1 standard with alternate mode HDMI capable of FullHD resolution - it had processor that achieves in geekbench 5 somewhere between 1.5k - 2k points multicore at least I know, I know - need to wake up ;-)

Well there is a Convergence Edition which allows you to output over HDMI.

Both 2GiB/3BiB RAM editions allow you to output over HDMI.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by sam0x17 » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 4:31 PM UTC

Will this work on the "brave heart" beta edition that came out last year?

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by generalizations » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 4:40 PM UTC

olah_1 wrote: post #47

tluyben2 wrote: post #35

I got my pinephone (Manjaro) last week and tried all OSs there are for it; I really love the idea of having a real Linux device in my pocket (that's why I have the Pandora, Pyra + GPD pocket 1 as well); it is such a difference having full control and being able to change whatever how you work instead of having large corps decide. Also shows, by the 'missing apps' between ecosystems, how much we need replacements for…

> then a lot more people will need to help with this. I don't know how that will happen I wonder if community crypto-currency tokens could be used for incentive. See explanation twitter thread here: https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1326313315044192256?s=20 Really, community tokens could be the basis for a true guild system. The collective community of token holders would represent collective expertise in a specific…

That's a cool idea. I'm usually cynical about that stuff, but this could actually work.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by DoingIsLearning » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 4:43 PM UTC

Causality1 wrote: post #21

josteink wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe all those concerns were put to rest once the modularised design of the phone was taken into consideration. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24596248

Not at all. The specced hardware charge controller has no thermal circuitry and only disables the battery at a 6 amp current draw.

I'm not a power electronics guy but can a charging circuit realistically be a fire hazard without an initial overcurrent?

It seems like good redundancy to have thermal cut-off but theoretically a fire would have to be preceded by a massive overcurrent anyway, no?

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by nwah1 » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 4:56 PM UTC

olah_1 wrote: post #47

tluyben2 wrote: post #35

I got my pinephone (Manjaro) last week and tried all OSs there are for it; I really love the idea of having a real Linux device in my pocket (that's why I have the Pandora, Pyra + GPD pocket 1 as well); it is such a difference having full control and being able to change whatever how you work instead of having large corps decide. Also shows, by the 'missing apps' between ecosystems, how much we need replacements for…

> then a lot more people will need to help with this. I don't know how that will happen I wonder if community crypto-currency tokens could be used for incentive. See explanation twitter thread here: https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1326313315044192256?s=20 Really, community tokens could be the basis for a true guild system. The collective community of token holders would represent collective expertise in a specific…

If they want to throw their reputations in the trash pushing get rich quick schemes, they probably would already be doing that instead of all this hard work.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by gonational » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 4:56 PM UTC

For anyone who uses Apple Pay: I had trouble at the pine64.com website using Apple Pay (kept getting “invalid shipping address“), but when I checked out via their normal CC checkout it worked fine.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by izacus » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 5:03 PM UTC

tluyben2 wrote: post #35

I got my pinephone (Manjaro) last week and tried all OSs there are for it; I really love the idea of having a real Linux device in my pocket (that's why I have the Pandora, Pyra + GPD pocket 1 as well); it is such a difference having full control and being able to change whatever how you work instead of having large corps decide. Also shows, by the 'missing apps' between ecosystems, how much we need replacements for…

I wonder if making a shell on top of Android (for compatiblity with other devices) would make community larger and get more software contributions. Not sure how technically feasible it is though.