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I’ve been using Notion quite a lot the last 1.5 years at work and I’ve got similar gripes as others have already written about.

My major wish, and this has been on their roadmap for a while now: an API.

Question: how many of y’all use Notion in the desktop client version (which seems a bit faster) vs. in the browser where you can have multiple tabd open?

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Notion seems to be one of those companies going wide before they go deep. By my count, they want to be a:

  * Todo list / task manager / long-term planner
  * Blogging/publishing platform
  * Internal wiki
  * Note-taking app
One of the more cynical takes I've heard is that this is the result of an incredible product sense without the necessary direction to support it. Regardless of the reason, they seem to be releasing features without a coherent narrative of how they grow the company's placement and who their target user is. Previous companies which have done this (e.g. Evernote) grow really quickly with a lot of user-love and then stagnated in growth without a clear sense of what to do next.

With all that said, I'm a happy notion user, so maybe they're onto something...

I wonder if internally they have that sense of direction (e.g. they want to compete head-on with Monday) and, if so, how scoped it is (e.g. do they want to replace ALL internal tools / do they think that's tractable)?

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I love the idea of Notion, and I love what the team is trying to do, and I love almost all of Notion. Unfortunately, it's too slow , at least for me. For a tool like that I need it to be a frictionless as possible, and Notion (for me!) is just a bit too annoying for me to put up with after extended usage. If you value features over snappiness, Notion may be great for you though. It's an amazing concept! And I certain…

I don't use notion, so I'm curious - what kind of slow? UI lag? Page load? API responses?

Page load, painting, uploading, everything. It's all very very slow. I use Notion very heavily at work, and until March of this year personally. In early 2020 I switched to Roam and I can't go back now. Roam is so amazingly fast it's like they're cheating or something. I wish every app would adopt the way Roam does it. Load everything up front.

But, everything is slow these days. Aside from Roam, HN and maybe a handful of native iOS apps, I can't really name any app/site that I use on daily basis that isn't painfully slow.

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I have some serious data privacy concerns with Notion. The excruciating slowness of the platform in all its forms and iterations is also completely unworkable. A real shame as I really need something like this in my life - both personal and professional.

Take a look at Portabella ( https://portabella.io ), we're not feature complete with Notion but making serious progress!

Well that's very different and not comparable to Notion because Notion is first for documentation and only secondly for project management

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#75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While this has become a thread for talking about alternatives, has anyone found a solution with a premium Latex + markdown experience? So far I've found VSC to be the best experience.

I'm a huge fan of obsidian.md. It should tick all your boxes.

what do you use on ios in your workflow?

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#76

Notion seems to be one of those companies going wide before they go deep. By my count, they want to be a: * Todo list / task manager / long-term planner * Blogging/publishing platform * Internal wiki * Note-taking app One of the more cynical takes I've heard is that this is the result of an incredible product sense without the necessary direction to support it. Regardless of the reason, they seem to be releasing feat…

They've raised $68.2m they no longer have the option to make a really great product that follows the unix philosophy. They have to do anything they can to attract enterprise customers which is where the real investment-justifying money will be, and for the most part that means having an infinite list of features at a competitive price.

Granted, for selling out to VC they've still done a good job with design and product. But they have one path through their self-imposed blizzard and the footprints leading the way are clearly marked "Evernote".

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That being said, the fact that it's electron-based means… At my current job, management jumped into the Notion wagon some time ago, then told IT to force-install the desktop web application in every computer. The moment I realized it was an Electron app, I stopped using it. Nowadays, I sporadically open the web application, which is one click away from my browser bookmarks. Safari executes JavaScript code much fast…

That's interesting! Anything special about the computer you're on? Would the apps be just as fast if they used a cocoa web view, or is Safari faster?

Self-answering to some degree, it looks like WKWebView on macos is similar to safari but may be behind on version number (presumably updated only when the OS is updated) and thus slower.

You can also embed an actual safari view, but it doesn't let your control things, so it'd have to be more strictly a "dumb shell": https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=trjs0tcd

Of course, I'm not sure how either compares to electron, and I'm sure it depends on the app.

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Notion seems to be one of those companies going wide before they go deep. By my count, they want to be a: * Todo list / task manager / long-term planner * Blogging/publishing platform * Internal wiki * Note-taking app One of the more cynical takes I've heard is that this is the result of an incredible product sense without the necessary direction to support it. Regardless of the reason, they seem to be releasing feat…

They've raised $68.2m they no longer have the option to make a really great product that follows the unix philosophy. They have to do anything they can to attract enterprise customers which is where the real investment-justifying money will be, and for the most part that means having an infinite list of features at a competitive price. Granted, for selling out to VC they've still done a good job with design and produ…

Yes, and I believe a lot of startup advice is to do one thing well (serving a specific market) before trying to branch out. Or are you saying they're trying to throws things at a wall to see what sticks with enterprise customers?

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Notion seems to be one of those companies going wide before they go deep. By my count, they want to be a: * Todo list / task manager / long-term planner * Blogging/publishing platform * Internal wiki * Note-taking app One of the more cynical takes I've heard is that this is the result of an incredible product sense without the necessary direction to support it. Regardless of the reason, they seem to be releasing feat…

They've raised $68.2m they no longer have the option to make a really great product that follows the unix philosophy. They have to do anything they can to attract enterprise customers which is where the real investment-justifying money will be, and for the most part that means having an infinite list of features at a competitive price. Granted, for selling out to VC they've still done a good job with design and produ…

Equating Notion to Unix - I don’t follow. In what sense? Unix philosophy is hardly relatable to Notion.

For one, I can’t stand their frivolous design - emojis everywhere.

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I love the idea of Notion, and I love what the team is trying to do, and I love almost all of Notion. Unfortunately, it's too slow , at least for me. For a tool like that I need it to be a frictionless as possible, and Notion (for me!) is just a bit too annoying for me to put up with after extended usage. If you value features over snappiness, Notion may be great for you though. It's an amazing concept! And I certain…

Notion is indeed slow. Slack is slow. Google drive is slow. Trello is slow. Some local/native alternatives can be snappier. Speed and snappiness don’t always come together, but when they do, there is no going back to something even a little slower or less reactive. That’s why I don’t test nor try new hardware until I actually need more than what I have. It’s too strong to resist ;)

I think that Trello is pretty fast on all platforms and notifications are sent instantaneously
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