I propose to tax workers who are commuting to work but aren't required to for their job and causing increase in pollution.
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#72Counterpoint: Tax employers additionally, since they now face lower rent and spend less on office supplies and coffee. Or, hell, tax high-income earners. For instance bank executives working for shady banks
In the article, it says > The tax would be paid for by employers and the income generated would be paid to people who can't do their jobs from home. But somehow nobody in this thread seems to have read that sentence.
Worker always pays all tax. If you get X and pay Y tax and employer also pay Z tax, the reality is that you make X+Y+Z and pay Y+Z of tax, it just happens that Z is attributed to the employer, but it makes no difference. So if the Z increases, then X and Y will decrease or if X and Y stays the same, it only means you are now making more, but the difference goes to the state purse. Now if the increase goes beyond the budget allocated for salaries, the solutions are - increase the budget, make cuts, fire someone and if employer increases the budget then you just made a rise.
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#73Why not "tax people with a lot of money, to help pay those who do not"?
Or those who gained a lot from the crisis? It's not like they were planning for a pandemic; for e.g. zoom this was simply a windfall. Why not tax that?
"Why not punish people for building the infrastructure that helped us survive this crisis?"
Re: Tax working from home 'to support vulnerable jobs' – Deutsche Bank
#74Counterpoint: Tax employers additionally, since they now face lower rent and spend less on office supplies and coffee. Or, hell, tax high-income earners. For instance bank executives working for shady banks
In the article, it says > The tax would be paid for by employers and the income generated would be paid to people who can't do their jobs from home. But somehow nobody in this thread seems to have read that sentence.
I think the expectation is that employers would just reduce the salary of all WFH employees until they are paying the same amount as they were before. I would expect very few, if any, US companies would shoulder the burden themselves and keep their employees salaries the same
Re: Tax working from home 'to support vulnerable jobs' – Deutsche Bank
#75Counterpoint: Tax employers additionally, since they now face lower rent and spend less on office supplies and coffee. Or, hell, tax high-income earners. For instance bank executives working for shady banks
Obvious solution is to tax high earners more than low earners. If the inequality is increasing anyways, increase the amount of tax the high earners have to pay, and lower the one for low earners.
But if you're one of those high earners (that let's say works at Deutsche Bank) who sit in an office, you're not gonna write a proposal for higher tax for yourself. So instead you focus on those other people, who are "stealing" your salary by not having to go to the office anymore.
Re: Tax working from home 'to support vulnerable jobs' – Deutsche Bank
#76Pay people who can't more, then tax them.
Yeah, the analyst's conclusion seems to be very dumb/unworkable...
What if monthly public transport tickets (if we're talking about places with public transport) and lunch subsidies are added to employees' benefit packages, but if you work from home these will be reduced at a pro-rata basis (WFH 40%? You only get 60% of that money)...
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#77This sounds like a horrible idea. Home work improves many peoples mental state, reduces time spent at work (if you count commutes), people's footprint in terms of pollution and allow for the redistribution of people that were clustered in big cities under asfixiating rent/home owning costs. Why on earth would we disincentivize it? >By working from home, people aren't paying for public transport or eating out at resta…
Preserve the status quo at all costs. Is there a term for that?
We also need a name for those who wish to ruin everything good with taxation.
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#78Germany continues its war on the self-employed.
DB is an international company. The analyst in question seems to be UK-based.
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#79People who can work and kept their jobs already pay more taxes than people who couldn't and lost their jobs. I'm not against supporting people who find themselves in dire straits. But that is already happening.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the point they're trying to make is that the money you and your employer are saving is not going into the economy as it was before, which is having a net-negative effect overall. > Quite simply, our economic system is not set up to cope with people who can disconnect themselves from face-to-face society. So it's plausible that there is actually a problem here with the very sudden change of workforce distribut…
So perhaps the system was broken (and punative measures against remote workers aren't going to fix it). God forbid we question our banking system or other broken systems that have been brought into the light of day since COVID started.
Exactly! We've built an unsustainable system around consumption by the smaller lot of creators. COVID only exposed it.