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Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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Great news and the markets are reacting very positively to the news as well which indicates to me this could be the beginning of the end!

I remember that in March somebody posted here an entry saying that mutation of the virus will make vaccinations only useful in the short term. Were these concerns already addressed at this stage? We have seen mutations due to minks recently which could make the vaccinations ineffective. These mutations might have been controlled but similar situations may arise in the next years. For these reasons I am not entirely s…

>I remember that in March somebody posted here an entry saying that mutation of the virus will make vaccinations only useful in the short term. Were these concerns already addressed at this stage?

Regardless of whether the mutations are significant enough to affect vaccine efficacy, it won't likely be a problem. These new mRNA vaccines have a development/production time measured in weeks and months, not years. It changes vaccines from a hardware problem to a software problem. Once the underlying delivery technology is proven safe and effective, reacting to new strains will be as swift as patching a codebase. It's hard to overstate what a massive advance in vaccine tech is happening here.

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

#72
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Great news, but I think the importance of the -80 degrees centigrade storage requirement is underestimated. Serbia, where I live, has ordered this vaccine. And our medical system is far from world-class, but leaps and bounds from less developed countries, and I honestly think logistics here will not be able to match those requirements. I've seen tetanus vaccines just being kept in regular, commercial, refrigerators.…

In Uk I have recently recieved a vaccine, and it was in a commercial refrigirator. I don't know if they have a UPS, but it appears like a normal thing to do.

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

#73
post #67
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> what would it even mean for somebody to be "90% immune" to a disease? Hasn't this virus already mutated to a bunch of different strands? Could it mean you're immune to 90% of the known variations of the virus?

The variations are enough to have differences in infectiousness and to allow us to trace the spread a bit, but as far as we know immunity to any of them is immunity to all of them.

> as far as we know immunity to any of them is immunity to all of them.

What are you basing that on, when there are known cases of people getting coronavirus and then still contracting the other strain of it?

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

#74
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At the time of writing (2020-11-09 12:04 UTC) the article uses "90% of people" and "90% protection" interchangeably. I assume it means "90% of individuals achieve immunity", rather than "individuals achieve 90% immunity". EDIT: See child comment re: Pfizer press release. EDIT 2: See [1] for said press release, which has more detailed information than the BBC article. [1] https://investors.pfizer.com/investor-news/pre…

First phrasing makes more sense than the second one to me -- what would it even mean for somebody to be "90% immune" to a disease?

Immunity isn't binary

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post #17

Seems like a good time to buy shares in whoever manufactures industrial sized extra cold freezers.

Get some Peloton too. People will probably want to start exercising in their homes.

Yep, time to invest in zoom too. I assume at some stage people will need to make more video calls.

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

#77
post #29

Great news, but I think the importance of the -80 degrees centigrade storage requirement is underestimated. Serbia, where I live, has ordered this vaccine. And our medical system is far from world-class, but leaps and bounds from less developed countries, and I honestly think logistics here will not be able to match those requirements. I've seen tetanus vaccines just being kept in regular, commercial, refrigerators.…

> Vehicles equipped for transport are an issue by itself.

What about putting it into liquid nitrogen?

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

#78

Great news and the markets are reacting very positively to the news as well which indicates to me this could be the beginning of the end!

Except Zoom's, which fell from 514 to 410 in less than an hour. Really puts the nails in coffin of the whole "we're gonna work more remotely after the pandemic" narrative.

Investor speculation doesn’t put nails into anything :)

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

#80

Great news and the markets are reacting very positively to the news as well which indicates to me this could be the beginning of the end!

Except Zoom's, which fell from 514 to 410 in less than an hour. Really puts the nails in coffin of the whole "we're gonna work more remotely after the pandemic" narrative.

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