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I don't have a nice name for people in EU parliament that write these things, they don't really understand what encryption is. It's not a technology. You can't ban encryption. Terrorists can just use unencrypted chat and either use their own encryption or they can use predefined words and sentences that actually have a totally different meaning.
So before discussing this I suggest people read the article because the title is misleading This is (from what I understand) not about a blanket ban on encryption, but the possibility to allow wiretapping on certain E2E comms. Also relevant is this recent decision by the ECJ https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/06/ecj-limits-government-spying... (Naturally this is worrying and I think the main issue with security lies on lac…
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I note that here I am in the UK, and the current home secretary appears to be Priti Patel. Who is far more hardline on this than the EU, and not in the good direction. If we left at the last minute, it's so that we can go faster. One of the things we are deliberately jettisoning is the protections afforded us by being in the EU.
We now have more control and we can vote for a party that could fix this.
People who cared about this in the UK; our best bet was to stay in the EU which is not nearly so extreme about it as the UK is. The current UK government is looking forwards to jettisoning the protections and human rights that were afforded us by being in the EU.
That said, the current UK government is fantastically inept. Everything they touch turns to shit, and any time BoJo says he absolutely won't do something - he'll crumble in a fortnight (see e.g. every EU negotiation, Lockdown 2.0, the feeding children fiasco, etc etc).
There are current UK ministers whose names have become bywords for incompetency and government fuckup. If the UK decided to ban encryption tomorrow, and the government put their best people on it, we'd be looking at a decade or so before they got anywhere. The EU are heading to a more moderate place, but they will get there faster by virtue of not being British; by not having to do it via the dream team of Johnson, Cummings, and whoever is in charge of screwing up everything they touch this week (Chris Grayling, the man who paid millions to a ferry company that had never owned, chartered, leased or in any other way been involved with a ferry or single ferry route, historically takes this role).
I'm sick and tired of seeing tech-illiterate decision makers on both international levels attempt to thwart our right to privacy. Does anyone know what we or I can do (in this case specifically) to help fight this idiocy?
The EU is slowly starting to show their true face. We probably have left at the last minute. I personally think this is an attempted assault on human rights and such ideas should be nipped in a bud and people proposing that banned from any office. My blood boils.
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Do you have any sources on this? I’m interested.
I am from Slovakia and yes - this idiot actually went to our capital city (near border) to a gun shop and tried to buy ammunition for his AK-47. Of course you can't buy anything if you are not a citizen and you don't have a gun permit. So he didn't buy anything, the seller contacted the police and they did a background check and found out that he was sentenced for radicalism, he tried to go to Syria to fight a war an…
Ah but that would require someone to actually do something, that would be too hard. And I guess for some of the "human rights" crowd, some people have all the benefit of the doubt unless they're caught in the act
I'm in my early 40s. Up until I was ~35 I was very strongly against this, sort of like most you. Now I feel the EU in general (some member states a lot worse than others) has backed itself into a corner because of the utterly failed integration efforts, union-wide. I live in a EU nation that has seen a very high rise in violent (and sometimes frankly horrible) crime over the past decade. As a dad of a 1-year old daug…
So before discussing this I suggest people read the article because the title is misleading This is (from what I understand) not about a blanket ban on encryption, but the possibility to allow wiretapping on certain E2E comms. Also relevant is this recent decision by the ECJ https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/06/ecj-limits-government-spying... (Naturally this is worrying and I think the main issue with security lies on lac…
If you can have wiretapping you don't have E2E encryption. So I think this would be a ban on E2E encryption, not on encryption in general of course but I think that should be self evident.
Yes, wiretapped connections are not E2E while they're being monitored, obviously