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Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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post #69

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Not what you asked for, but you can mute/unmute quickly with the keyboard shortcut: ⌘/Ctrl + d

Ah, yes, of course. D as in mute.

M is taken by minimise, hence the next closest thing is D (for deaf).

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

#72
If you have a Windows computer with a RTX graphic card, you can use nvidia broadcast to get similar perks. It creates a virtual camera that you can select in whatever conference apps/browsers you are using.

There are some works on OBS to get the green screen AI working, so I hope we will get that on GNU/Linux one day.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

#73
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At least for background blur the latency there is enough to make it almost unusable: easily over 100ms. This is with latest stable Chrome on a relatively recent Ryzen/Nvidia system. Maybe background replacement will do better once it rolls down to regular Google Meet (too lazy to log into my Google Apps Suite Workspace) :-) However, everything else about Google Meet is great and I wish I could make all my Zoom friend…

> However, everything else about Google Meet is great and I wish I could make all my Zoom friends switch. is it _better_ than zoom tho? I my experience, I don't see much of an improvement worth switching.

I think the main benefit is not having to install a desktop app of questionable quality just to make a call.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

#75

Aside: Imagine you’re driving down the road and you need to make a right turn. Well, for some reason the steering wheel is stowed away and disappeared! You need to hover your hand around the center console in a specific area to be able to expose it. Out comes the steering wheel and now you can make a right turn. Google UX/UI team: Please fucking make the mute/unmute button visible at all times.

It’s even worse on touch devices. You have to touch the bottom screen to get the controls to appear. Accident touch twice in the wrong location and you can hang up.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

#76
I don’t understand this part:

> In the current version, model inference is executed on the client’s CPU for low power consumption and widest device coverage.

Naively I would think model inference done server side would have the lower CPU power (from the client point of view) and widest device coverage (client does nothing more), what am I missing ?

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

#77
As an aside, this example looks faked:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-viEA4OY0sxA/X5s7IBwoXOI/AAAAAAAAG...

As in, the blurred background looks totally different (light:dark, shapes, etc.) to the unblurred background.

(I get that they’d need to do something funky to show blurred and unblurred backgrounds with the same foreground video, and faking it is likely easier than doing it programmatically, but this is just odd/sloppy.)

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

#78

Aside: Imagine you’re driving down the road and you need to make a right turn. Well, for some reason the steering wheel is stowed away and disappeared! You need to hover your hand around the center console in a specific area to be able to expose it. Out comes the steering wheel and now you can make a right turn. Google UX/UI team: Please fucking make the mute/unmute button visible at all times.

Cmd-D will mute/unmute. I find it much easier than using the mouse.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

#79
post #76

I don’t understand this part: > In the current version, model inference is executed on the client’s CPU for low power consumption and widest device coverage. Naively I would think model inference done server side would have the lower CPU power (from the client point of view) and widest device coverage (client does nothing more), what am I missing ?

Probably increased latency due to additional round trips to the server. Perhaps image streams are sent between clients directly, but I'm not sure.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

#80
post #77

As an aside, this example looks faked: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-viEA4OY0sxA/X5s7IBwoXOI/AAAAAAAAG... As in, the blurred background looks totally different (light:dark, shapes, etc.) to the unblurred background. (I get that they’d need to do something funky to show blurred and unblurred backgrounds with the same foreground video, and faking it is likely easier than doing it programmatically, but this is just odd/slo…

From the image caption "Background blur and background replacement, powered by MediaPipe on the web.".
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