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Web based Windows XP desktop recreation, built with React

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Re: Web based Windows XP desktop recreation, built with React

#71

This still is one of the best ux. This and Windows 2000. Straight to the point and fast.

By the way, what I find weird is NO Linux modification (DE/WM theme or whatever) marketed as a Windows XP (or Windows 98) clone ever actually looked close to the original - every single one looked a rough parody. I wish there were some really good...

Even today the default Raspbian LXDE could look less ugly if they could make taskbar-based launcher and tray icons slightly smaller (kind of like in Windows 95-XP) rather than 100% taskbar height, but they won't.

Re: Web based Windows XP desktop recreation, built with React

#72

I am very disappointed in the lack of response from Explorer > Help > Is this copy of Windows legal?

I was disappointed that winamp visualizations didn't work, especially considering milkdrop has already been ported to the web: https://webamp.org/

As soon as I tried to play the visualizations the nvidia driver gave up and I had to hard reboot, the heck?

Re: Web based Windows XP desktop recreation, built with React

#73

This still is one of the best ux. This and Windows 2000. Straight to the point and fast.

By the way, what I find weird is NO Linux modification (DE/WM theme or whatever) marketed as a Windows XP (or Windows 98) clone ever actually looked close to the original - every single one looked a rough parody. I wish there were some really good... Even today the default Raspbian LXDE could look less ugly if they could make taskbar-based launcher and tray icons slightly smaller (kind of like in Windows 95-XP) rathe…

Classic 95 with XFCE is really good, and some modern themes from b00merang in Cinammon look really close.

You didn't look enough then...

https://b00merang.weebly.com/themes.html

Re: Web based Windows XP desktop recreation, built with React

#74

I am very disappointed in the lack of response from Explorer > Help > Is this copy of Windows legal?

In a moment of serendipity, I was just finishing up a tiny project prompted by a moment of nostalgia: installing a Windows XP system under VirtualBox and getting the internet working on it.

I always had fond memories of Win2k and WinXP and I wanted to know if my feelings today would match what I remembered, or if I was just seeing the past through rose-coloured glasses.

I couldn't get IE to co-operate with modern browsing bar a few websites, I'm assuming this was to do with SSL. I did get Firefox 41 .0 working a few minutes ago and immediately went to HN to test it (as an easy https-enabled text-based website) only to find this to be the top post.

For those curious, clicking Help -> Is this copy of Windows legal? goes to a 404 [0] page in IE.

To answer my own question: Windows XP feels incredibly more user-friendly and accessible than the version of Windows 10 that I bailed from to Linux. I don't know how much of that is familiarity and how much is actual difference, though I did use Windows 10 far longer than I did Windows XP before finally deciding it's not working for me.

Why are there two control panels? Why do I have to move the mouse all over the screen to click something because the OS uses a weird mix of desktop-oriented and touchscreen-oriented design? Why do I have to dive into the guts of the system to disable the invasive features that track me and send my information to Microsoft?

Opening Windows Media Player prompted me with some privacy options such as obtaining licensing info and sending diagnostics back to Microsoft, each of which were clearly explained and had to be toggled on/off in the setup. It was so clearly out of the norm at the time that they went out of their way to make it visible. I feel like today it would not even warrant a mention, bar locales where that's required by law.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but with WinXP it feels like I own the system. The customer-merchant relationship is clear. I paid Microsoft money, they provided me with software and now I am using it. 15 years ago I never would have though to consider that a company whose software I use would be selling my personal data to figure out exactly what kind of ads I should see.

Using Windows 10 now feels like a constant battle between me and the company that sold me the software ("do you want to enable Cortana? can we send your keyboard input to our servers? can we update your system without permission unless you have an enterprise account? can we, can we, can we...")

I'm not RMS. I don't care if companies use binary blobs to distribute drivers or collect basic usage info without full disclosure. Yet I still feel the pendulum has swung too far and its momentum continues to push it in the same direction. In both UI design and privacy.

I'm glad that there are still a vocal group of enthusiastic people that are keeping the spirit of FOSS alive, but I'm concerned about the commoditization of our information.

Phew, sorry, I got really bloody off-topic. Great website! It didn't work on my WinXP VM under Firefox or IE but it did work on my Linux system. Congrats!

[0] https://i.imgur.com/M2NoHrt.png

Re: Web based Windows XP desktop recreation, built with React

#75

This still is one of the best ux. This and Windows 2000. Straight to the point and fast.

By the way, what I find weird is NO Linux modification (DE/WM theme or whatever) marketed as a Windows XP (or Windows 98) clone ever actually looked close to the original - every single one looked a rough parody. I wish there were some really good... Even today the default Raspbian LXDE could look less ugly if they could make taskbar-based launcher and tray icons slightly smaller (kind of like in Windows 95-XP) rathe…

> Even today the default Raspbian LXDE could look less ugly if they could make taskbar-based launcher and tray icons slightly smaller rather than full taskbar height, but they won't.

You can tweak size for icons and the taskbar in the panel settings, AIUI. It's relatively easy to give LXDE or Xfce that kind of "classic" look.

Re: Web based Windows XP desktop recreation, built with React

#76

This still is one of the best ux. This and Windows 2000. Straight to the point and fast.

By the way, what I find weird is NO Linux modification (DE/WM theme or whatever) marketed as a Windows XP (or Windows 98) clone ever actually looked close to the original - every single one looked a rough parody. I wish there were some really good... Even today the default Raspbian LXDE could look less ugly if they could make taskbar-based launcher and tray icons slightly smaller (kind of like in Windows 95-XP) rathe…

There's IceWM that in my opinion does the "windows like" experience best. For some reason it's not very well known however.

Re: Web based Windows XP desktop recreation, built with React

#77
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By the way, what I find weird is NO Linux modification (DE/WM theme or whatever) marketed as a Windows XP (or Windows 98) clone ever actually looked close to the original - every single one looked a rough parody. I wish there were some really good... Even today the default Raspbian LXDE could look less ugly if they could make taskbar-based launcher and tray icons slightly smaller (kind of like in Windows 95-XP) rathe…

There's IceWM that in my opinion does the "windows like" experience best. For some reason it's not very well known however.

How do you connect to a WiFi network with a non-DE WM? I once thought about abandoning the DEs world for a WM - I don't use any of the DE-standard apps anyway. I didn't even use the taskbar those days - I used a 3-rd party dock instead. Then somebody told me a DE isn't just about their own [webkit-based] browser, editor, media player etc - it's about many essential conveniences you take for granted and don't even think about as apps - e.g. the WiFi applet.

Whatever, IceWM looks awkward (I can see special charm in it and won't say "ugly" but many people would) anyway. It actually seems an example of what I mean under a rough parody to Windows. Whoever can't see the difference between this[1] and what does real Windows (even Windows 98, let alone styled XP) look like is kind of blind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IceWM#/media/File:Icewmstartme...

Re: Web based Windows XP desktop recreation, built with React

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By the way, what I find weird is NO Linux modification (DE/WM theme or whatever) marketed as a Windows XP (or Windows 98) clone ever actually looked close to the original - every single one looked a rough parody. I wish there were some really good... Even today the default Raspbian LXDE could look less ugly if they could make taskbar-based launcher and tray icons slightly smaller (kind of like in Windows 95-XP) rathe…

> Even today the default Raspbian LXDE could look less ugly if they could make taskbar-based launcher and tray icons slightly smaller rather than full taskbar height, but they won't. You can tweak size for icons and the taskbar in the panel settings, AIUI. It's relatively easy to give LXDE or Xfce that kind of "classic" look.

I couldn't find such an option when I last checked. Thank you, knowing it really is there I'll try harder.

Re: Web based Windows XP desktop recreation, built with React

#79
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's IceWM that in my opinion does the "windows like" experience best. For some reason it's not very well known however.

How do you connect to a WiFi network with a non-DE WM? I once thought about abandoning the DEs world for a WM - I don't use any of the DE-standard apps anyway. I didn't even use the taskbar those days - I used a 3-rd party dock instead. Then somebody told me a DE isn't just about their own [webkit-based] browser, editor, media player etc - it's about many essential conveniences you take for granted and don't even thi…

nm-applet is the network manager applet on Linux, you need to place it at ~/.icewm/autostart:

nm-applet &

If you use wicd, you need to put "wicd-gtk -t &" instead.

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