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Re: Stripe Climate

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Post by seymore_12 » Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 4:32 PM UTC

syndacks wrote: post #24

I take serious moral concern with the notion that we can "spend our way out of climate disaster" as these initiatives ultimately suggest. Furthermore, this makes individuals feel better about doing something (having agency). This is a false sense of making a difference; we need sweeping, fundamental changes to address climate change, not at the individual level, but at the state level and beyond.

The term for this is "moral licensing". It is dangerous path i.e. I jogged 30 mins, I can have this Snickers bar now...

Re: Stripe Climate

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Post by chrismorgan » Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 4:38 PM UTC

Meanwhile, this page has a pointless colourful simulation/animation going on that immediately makes my laptop’s fan speed up as it makes the CPU consume another few watts, and makes scrolling janky too.

Re: Stripe Climate

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Post by abalone » Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 4:40 PM UTC

The only realistic solution to carbon removal is massive government investment, like most other major Silicon Valley core technologies. We need the Green New Deal. Anything less is posturing. I would even go so far as to say that on an issue of this importance, where we have maybe a decade left to turn the tide, giving the impression that private enterprise can solve it is irresponsible.

Put those donations into GND activism — it’s a political problem.

Re: Stripe Climate

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Post by markkat » Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 4:40 PM UTC

Why not direct the money to the planting of trees?

Re: Stripe Climate

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Post by lolsal » Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 4:43 PM UTC

alien1993 wrote: post #39

Yet another way to feel like you're doing something while doing absolutely nothing, or maybe even worse. Keep it up people!

Not every thing we do has to solve every problem immediately and entirely. Incremental progress is good.

Re: Stripe Climate

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Post by say_it_as_it_is » Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 4:43 PM UTC

If Stripe were to go ahead and take a few pennies off of its own cut, I'd be OK with that.

Re: Stripe Climate

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Post by antr » Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 4:47 PM UTC

abalone wrote: post #73

The only realistic solution to carbon removal is massive government investment, like most other major Silicon Valley core technologies. We need the Green New Deal. Anything less is posturing. I would even go so far as to say that on an issue of this importance, where we have maybe a decade left to turn the tide, giving the impression that private enterprise can solve it is irresponsible. Put those donations into GND…

I'm an energy investor (primarily focused on renewables), and I couldn't disagree more. I could go on an on with examples of how government intervention has created busts across the renewables space for the past 20 years, and has thrown down the drain billions of tax payer money. I'd like to keep governments out of something that works without them.

Re: Stripe Climate

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Post by lefrenchy » Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 4:51 PM UTC

abalone wrote: post #73

The only realistic solution to carbon removal is massive government investment, like most other major Silicon Valley core technologies. We need the Green New Deal. Anything less is posturing. I would even go so far as to say that on an issue of this importance, where we have maybe a decade left to turn the tide, giving the impression that private enterprise can solve it is irresponsible. Put those donations into GND…

Sadly I think far too many people will not evaluate the Green New Deal on it's actual merits and instead write it off because Bernie Sanders, AOC, and others have written/supported it. The strife and division we are seeing in the US will be a significant impact to climate action. We've already seen its impact on something as simple as mask wearing becoming politicized and difficult to coordinate on.

Re: Stripe Climate

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Post by graeme » Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 4:52 PM UTC

Would this or any portion of this be considered a business deduction? Eg a marketing expense where you can show social responsibility for prospective customers?

Re: Stripe Climate

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Post by mrwnmonm » Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 4:52 PM UTC

glintik wrote: post #15

Stripe, what’s wrong with you? Climate, are you serious? If your developers have some free time - please fix UI bugs in dashboard.

What the hell? They are trying to do something good, and that is your response?

AND THEY ARE ONE OF THE BEST DESIGNERS IN THE WORLD