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Re: How Apple Is Organized for Innovation

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Post by est31 »

_zllx wrote: post #44
est31 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you expand on the patent troll pretext? Never heard of that.

Apparently a company called VirnetX is seeking damages from Apple over iMessage and FaceTime, which some people (in my previous discussion among others) point out as their excuse not to develop cross-platform iMessage as they do cross-platform Apple Music. I don't have any evidence of Apple themselves claiming this as the excuse. https://9to5mac.com/2016/05/26/patent-troll-facetime-imessag...

Interesting, thank you!

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Post by andreskytt »

maxharris wrote: post #2

Is the way "Apple is organized for innovation" the reason why XCode is so prone to crashing? Is it why so many of Apple's new APIs are lacking documentation? Is it the reason the iOS Simulator doesn't reliably export the accessibility tree needed to run XCUI tests without flaking half the time? What about the fact that they haven't announced a single new product category since the Apple Watch in 2014? To my mind, it…

After a certain point, all complex organizations/systems will be exhibiting undesired emergence while desired emergence is reduced. At that point it’s all about marginal gains. Also, consider different goals. If the goal of the company is to make things work for engineers, they have shortcomings. But their goal clearly is making money and that seems to be working very well.

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Post by ulisesrmzroche »

_zllx wrote: post #12

iMessage is a true marketing innovation in America, where the only "alternatives" are Facebook and (barely usable) SMS. It restricts communication and makes life more difficult for everyone who doesn't have an iPhone, which in turn increases iPhone sales. Meanwhile, while holding basically infinite money, they pretend some patent troll is holding them back from making it cross-platform. Pure genius.

Why does it need to be cross platform? Why do y’all elevate it to a moral right? I really don’t get it

Re: How Apple Is Organized for Innovation

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Post by tarsinge »

It's refreshing to see that a functional organization is a viable alternative to the product-based divisions that most startups and companies adopt nowadays. Also management by experts seems inspiring:

> “We went through that stage in Apple where we went out and thought, Oh, we’re gonna be a big company, let’s hire professional management. We went out and hired a bunch of professional management. It didn’t work at all….They knew how to manage, but they didn’t know how to do anything. If you’re a great person, why do you want to work for somebody you can’t learn anything from?"

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Post by yuriko_boyko »

threeseed wrote: post #52
yuriko_boyko wrote: post #21

Hard to say they're innovative when Samsung has produced folding phones before them. Similarly, bezelless display was just following Huawei and Samsung. In fact, many of their so called new and innovative features have appeared in android phones earlier, but Apple markets them better. Apple is efficient at money making. If I were to profile a company for innovation, I would profile Nintendo. They have consistently da…

Innovation is also about what you say no to. Folding phones today are a mess e.g. creases, durability concerns, inconvenient form-factors.

Leaving things out would be innovative if they went against the mainstream for some crazy gains.In this case Apple is holding the line while Samsung and Huawei are pushing the envelope. If Apple introduce only tried and tested technologies, how can they be called innovative?

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Post by sudosysgen »

threeseed wrote: post #70
sudosysgen wrote: post #60

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Very much doubtful. AMD is seriously on fire, and unless they can pull some magic I don't see that happening.

Amazon's ARM processors outperform AMD at similar price-points. And I would expect Apple to be significantly better at Amazon.

Source? From what I've seen they are around half the speed.

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Post by sudosysgen »

cromka wrote: post #69
sudosysgen wrote: post #60

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Very much doubtful. AMD is seriously on fire, and unless they can pull some magic I don't see that happening.

You’re using an example of an underdog suddenly topping a hegemon in the field to make a point that no other company can do that again?

AMD was able to topple Intel because Intel was stagnant. Apple is coming from a design that is worse in every single way to AMD, which has been working on this for over a decade, and is attempting to topple them while they're killing it every year. Simply not comparable.

Indeed, if you look at AMD's laptop chips, their performance per watt is quite superior to Apple's chips. And since then AMD has only improved.

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Post by [deleted] »

rswail wrote: post #64
optimiz3 wrote: post #9

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A credit card is a bit of a stretch. Virtually every enterprise in existence has tried to get me to sign up for their in-house card since the mid 80s.

The innovation is that it is not actually a credit card as previously known. It can't be used manually, it is a way to get retailers to move to Chip and Contactless, which is a way to get them and their merchant acquirers to move to Apple Pay.

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