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Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by sleepyhead »

scott31 wrote: post #52

Yeah, blame U.S. corporations complying with their law, while your country has not had a single step for resolution of the sanctions. Also if an Iranian developer is unprepared against losing their access to Gitlab, then sadly they are incompetent developers.

> while your country has not had a single step for resolution of the sanctions.

Uhm, it was literally the USA that withdrew from the signed deal without any wrongdoings from Iran. You might consider not being so tough on the internet when you are factually wrong.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by dsabanin »

xtracto wrote: post #68
dsabanin wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, Russia under sanctions, for annexation of Crimea, should just be left alone to leave their lives? Next time, if they decide to annex some other part of Ukraine, or maybe Poland this time, they should also be left to live their lives? Sanctions are not punishments. They are just a way to say – you're an asshole, and neither us nor our allies are going to play with you anymore.

Aah Pax Americana [1]. It feels so warm and cosy knowing that the benevolent regime has my butt covered. Look. I love the US (being a Mexican, I consider Mex/US relationship like a bug brother / little brother one) . But darn, it seems the pax-anericana epoch is getting weaker and weaker, and the US is just trying to cling at the last straws of influence that its left. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_American…

Can't wait to see what Pax China is going to like!

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by marcinzm »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #23
skrebbel wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, nitpick, nobody's blocking Persians. I'm not Persian but if I go to Iran I bet I'm blocked too. I'm strongly opposed to these sanctions, and I also think GitLab should've given people notice so they could get their data out. But I'm not sure it's a good place to pull the racism card.

I agree it's not racism on GitLab's part, but the U.S. officials behind these sanctions themselves do use phrases like that they want to 'choke Iran's economy', that is in the middle of a pandemic where people's respiratory systems are at risk, it certainly doesn't look good on their part. Also worth noting that GitLab has previously banned hiring from China/Russia, so it's no stranger to blanket bans of questionable…

>Also worth noting that GitLab has previously banned hiring from China/Russia, so it's no stranger to blanket bans of questionable nature.

I wouldn't consider not hiring from countries with aggressive foreign policies and non-democratic governments that use coercion on their own citizens (including employees of said company) as questionable. GitLab's main job is to protect it's company and it's customers not to try to build some sort of utopian post-reality civilization.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by dsabanin »

fiblye wrote: post #60
dsabanin wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, Russia under sanctions, for annexation of Crimea, should just be left alone to leave their lives? Next time, if they decide to annex some other part of Ukraine, or maybe Poland this time, they should also be left to live their lives? Sanctions are not punishments. They are just a way to say – you're an asshole, and neither us nor our allies are going to play with you anymore.

I mean, taking steps to deter a country from annexing or triggering a war makes sense. But the sanctions against Iran are mainly based on old grudges. Pretty much nobody even knows why they exist beyond “they’re bad.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by ReptileMan »

Myrmornis wrote: post #51

What steps can maintainers of projects hosted on GitHub/GitLab/etc take to make their projects available to users in countries affected by this US policy? For example, is there an alternative git hosting site where it would be helpful for me to maintain a fork, so that the README is available and people can open issues and PRs? Similarly, where would be a good place to host the binaries built on each release so that…

>What steps can maintainers of projects hosted on GitHub/GitLab/etc take to make their projects available to users in countries affected by this US policy?

If they are under US jurisdiction it is inadvisable to try and circumvent such stuff.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by Causality1 »

ahelwer wrote: post #19
dsabanin wrote: post #16

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What's your alternative to sanctions that's more effective? War?

The only thing Iran is guilty of is insufficient deference to US hegemony. Any other charge you levy can have its equal found in our so-called allies in the region, or even the US itself.

I'm in complete agreement that most of our "allies" in the region are fairweather friends and as morally bankrupt as anyone else.

However, I'm also in favor of blanket sanctions against any nation whose parliament takes up a literal "Marg bar Āmrikā" collective chant.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by input_sh »

goku99 wrote: post #33
monkin wrote: post #3

GitLab can’t do nothing about it, and whining will not help. Everything is on government level.

Just of clarification, did they take down the project of all Iranian nationals? or simply block access to GitLab from Users with IP from Iran? Would it be possible to hide their identity, say tor or VPN?

Can't speak for GitLab specifically, but I have spoken to Persians living abroad that had their credit cards cancelled, bank accounts frozen, and SIM cards simply stopping to work. One of them hasn't lived in Iran in two decades and denounced their citizenship half a decade ago.

Businesses don't care. It's easier for them to have a couple of false positives than it is to deal with the possible consequences.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

miracle2k wrote: post #67
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #29

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One of the things Iran's unambiguously guilty of is these same kinds of access restrictions. If you've ever wondered why Google's sanctions-related controversy was focused on Google Cloud, it's because that was the biggest Google service allowed at the time - search, Gmail, and Youtube had already been banned by the Iranian government. So while I share the skepticism expressed upthread that blocking websites is effec…

A couple things to note here. Youtube is blocked, but Google Search or Gmail or not. Secondly, this is not a question of they block our services, so we block their services. In both cases, it is Iranians who lose access to services. If anything, it highlights the hypocrisy of pretending to care about Iranian freedom.

Interesting, you seem to be right. I don't know how I managed to read the news about Gmail being blocked but miss that it was unblocked like a week later.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by dessant »

diebeforei485 wrote: post #62
dessant wrote: post #34

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Some companies will block you despite having no legal obligation, because it's more convenient, than to apply the law in a sensible manner. GitLab is apparently such a company. > 118. I have a client that is in Iran to visit a relative. Do I need to restrict the account? > No. As long as you are satisfied that the client is not ordinarily resident in Iran, then the account does not need to be restricted. https://home…

This refers to bank accounts. A restricted account would mean the account can be closed and cashed out, but not used in other ways.

The same principle applies to GitLab in regards to account closure, they don't have to close an account without any interaction because the user has at some point logged in from an Iranian IP address, and they can preemptively restrict an account and ask for proof of residence.
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