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Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by croissants »

bgorman wrote: post #36
yalogin wrote: post #31

I don't know how I feel about it given how blatantly the current administration lies and the lengths they are willing to go to manufacture lies. Given that scenario, should we not just assume that everything they say is a lie until proven otherwise?

There is a lot of circumstantial evidence here. Why would Hunter biden be paid thousands of dollars a month to work at a random Ukrainian energy company other than to provide access to Joe Biden. Hunter Biden has no expertise running a energy utility.

Isn't the likeliest explanation that 1) random Ukrainian energy company paid Hunter Biden for access to Joe Biden, and 2) the payments were not useful in actually getting access to Joe Biden? "Thousands of dollars a month" doesn't seem like "get close to a former VP/future presidential candidate" money.

(Of course, this explanation isn't exactly a good look either, but at this point it's a choice between imperfection options, and one seems a lot less imperfect.)

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by im3w1l »

hirundo wrote: post #54

There's a recurring argument on social media censorship that goes: "you wouldn't want the telephone company censoring phone conversations would you?" And the response is along the lines: "these are hardly private conversations, any tweet can go viral and be seen by millions". This story breaks that mold in that it involves social media censoring private conversations via DM. If you think that's OK for Twitter on its…

It's gone so far now that nothing can surprise me anymore. If Facebook and Twitter made a joint announcement that Zuckerberg won the 2020 election and that Jack Dorsey will be his vp, and that anyone disputing this, whether in public or private or off platform will be banned - even that would not surprise me. If people went along with it so as not to be cut off from their likes and "influence", even that would not surprise me.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by ianai »

kube-system wrote: post #69
hirundo wrote: post #54

There's a recurring argument on social media censorship that goes: "you wouldn't want the telephone company censoring phone conversations would you?" And the response is along the lines: "these are hardly private conversations, any tweet can go viral and be seen by millions". This story breaks that mold in that it involves social media censoring private conversations via DM. If you think that's OK for Twitter on its…

I really hope AT&T starts censoring these damn spam calls. I've had 5 today.

They can’t. Because that actually is a technology not built to be moderated.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by jimbob45 »

gscott wrote: post #65
alkonaut wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a normal situation, publication would be followed by scrutiny, possibly correction, more information. Incorrect information isn’t such a big problem then. One major problem right now is that it’s 3 weeks from an election. Scrutiny and fact checks would risking being only after the election. I’m happy to see the requirements for credibility tightened right now, for issues related to the election.

Considering many people have already voted and probably do not care about this issue it would be unlikely to affect the outcome of the election anyway.

How could that be true when the general consensus is that Comey’s reopening of Hillary’s case greatly swung the 2016 election?

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by tootie »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #8

Whatever your perspective, directly verifiable censorship like this is just begging for legal trouble and monopoly investigations. Tactically speaking, I would say this is a massive mistake from Twitter.

This is what I don't get. People are screaming for digital channels to not allow disinformation even though they are just a passive communication channel. Is anyone screaming at printing presses for printing the NY Post? It's a garbage publication and this information is at least suspicious, but why are we holding Twitter to such a high standard of integrity and not actually journalists?

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by kube-system »

ianai wrote: post #74
kube-system wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really hope AT&T starts censoring these damn spam calls. I've had 5 today.

They can’t. Because that actually is a technology not built to be moderated.

Not yet, at least.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STIR/SHAKEN

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by riffic »

The ActivityPub standard and network exists. Nothing (absolutely nothing) is stopping the tabloid from running its own instance on nypost.com

edit: and I wanted to reply to a comment here referring to section 230 but their comment got flagged and I am unable to reply to them. Not really sure why it was flagged but whatever, HN does what it does.

My reply to that commenter would be that there is nothing stopping Congress-critters from standing up their own ActivityPub infra as well. A 'congress.gov' presence on the Fediverse would look pretty spiffy.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by tootie »

djsumdog wrote: post #35

Facebook, Twitter, Reddit et. al. are now in Orwell's land of "Ministry of Truth" .. they are telling the people what is reliable "news" and what is not. It's getting pretty insane out there.

That's only true if they are doing it in bad faith. And if they were controlling information at the source. You can still easily find this story on nypost.com. I agree this is dangerous territory for Twitter, but it's 100% within their rights to do so. They can censor content completely arbitrarily if they want. Consumers will vote with their feet. Either they like this or they don't.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by pseudo0 »

dang wrote: post #64

We changed the URL from https://twitter.com/sohrabahmari/status/1316446749729398790 to an article with more information. If there's a more informative source, we can change it again. Edit: I've changed it from https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/facebook-twitter-block-the-pos... to what looks like it may be a more neutral source. Other users have supplied these related links: https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-post-h…

The Yahoo article that you've linked appears to be a republication of an article from the National Review (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat...). Perhaps it would make more sense to link to the original source?
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