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KDE Plasma 5.20

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Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by brylie »

teekert wrote: post #64

Man, my entire life I've been going back and forth between Gnome and KDE, I just settled (again) on stock Ubuntu (for some months now) but now that I see this video and the grass looks greener, again. Guess I'm installing KDE Neon tonight... Edit, I have to say that for the kids I'll stay on Gnome, it's very recognizable for them when compared to the iPads they use at school, much more so than KDE (and Win10 for that…

I recently decided to give stock Ubuntu with Gnome a try, coming from KDE. After about two weeks of missing some of the simple pleasures of KDE, like being able to right-click in the file browser to create a new file or resizing windows to the left/right side of the window with Meta-left/right (which is somehow buggy in Gnome), I landed back in KDE-land with Neon.

I briefly toyed with the idea of Manjaro, but am not sure I'll be able to install some software that is readily available as .deb.

I have been using KDE as my daily driver for both work and personal computing for five years now.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by aruggirello »

josefx wrote: post #62
nsonha wrote: post #39

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There maybe some people who want this but they are not the marority. A task and an application are unrelated things. A task most likely spans one/several browser tabs + a couple of documents in different apps.

So use virtual desktops for that? KDE also has those.

KDE has both virtual desktops and activities:

https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/kde-workspace/plasma-desktop/...

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by numlock86 »

brightball wrote: post #70
cupofjoakim wrote: post #61

Good job, as expected by the Plasma team. I really feel like this is a big step in the right direction. A personal wish however would be that we got a more modern look to more desktop environments. Both Gnome, Plasma and Pantheon (default in Elementary OS) are talked about as the best looking desktop environments, but I'd be lying if I said that any of them looked awesome. There's just something about them that make…

PopOS is really impressing me

That's GNOME.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by brightball »

numlock86 wrote: post #73
brightball wrote: post #70

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PopOS is really impressing me

That's GNOME.

It is, but the adjustments that they are making to it especially with the PopOS Shell to build in tiling window management on top of gnome has dramatically improved the experience (for me at least).

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by shmerl »

dleslie wrote: post #69

Every few years I give KDE a shot, and the result is always the same; it's too unstable and slow to be a daily driver. The latest time was just last month, and the _stock_ panel widgets kept crashing, forgetting their preferences, and so on. The desktop environment itself occasionally crashed-to-login. Well, back to Gnome2! (MATE).

I've been using it for a long time and didn't notice any slowness (make sure file search is off).

What's bugging me though is that subsurfaces clipping bug in Wayland session. Kmail is still broken in 5.19.x.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by xyquadrat »

cupofjoakim wrote: post #61

Good job, as expected by the Plasma team. I really feel like this is a big step in the right direction. A personal wish however would be that we got a more modern look to more desktop environments. Both Gnome, Plasma and Pantheon (default in Elementary OS) are talked about as the best looking desktop environments, but I'd be lying if I said that any of them looked awesome. There's just something about them that make…

I fully understand that opinion - it is a big pain point for many users. Inside KDE, our VDG (Visual Design Group) is working on ironing out those inconsistencies and visual problems. It's a gigantic task, but I do believe we are making progress - especially System Settings has been getting a lot better lately. They are also working on a evolutionary update to our default 'Breeze' design theme. Check it out at https://phabricator.kde.org/T10891.

(And if you do find specific problems e.g. regarding margins or fonts, please report them on bugs.kde.org, and we'll take a look.)

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by aruggirello »

jankotek wrote: post #43
Aardwolf wrote: post #35

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Are you sure KDE is that good at customizing stuff? I hated the fact that it displays a huge speaker icon in the middle of the screen whenever adjusting volume, I know I adjust volume, I don't need to see it in the middle of the screen every time, this is a productivity computer, not a television. The only way I found to disable that behavior was to change some javascript code somewhere within KDE. But everytime I up…

Yes, it is great compared to alternatives. Release linked here reworked on screen notifications. So that sound problem may be fixed. Otherwise you can change association for volume keys and use your own command. You can uninstall nepomuk etc..

I don't think he's referring to notifications, but to those visual feedback icons that show up in the middle of the screen whenever you change brightness or volume (or mute sound) via keyboard.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by diffeomorphism »

kuschku wrote: post #50

I’ve been using Plasma for years, but after this release talking so much about the wayland improvements, the actual result is more than disappointing. First, to explain my setup: I've got a Dell UP2718Q in landscape, 3840x2160, 10-bit in DCI-P3 colorspace at 1.5x scale at 60Hz, side-by-side with a Fujitsu Siemens P17-2 in portrait, 1024x1280, 8-bit in sRGB colorspace at 1x scale at 75Hz 10-bit support isn’t there yet…

Maybe a stupid question, but why? If you care about high resolution and good colors why are you keeping the low res second monitor?

If you don't care about hires, why not simply set the Dell one to a lower resolution and not worry about scaling at all?

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

JW_00000 wrote: post #60
kuschku wrote: post #50

I’ve been using Plasma for years, but after this release talking so much about the wayland improvements, the actual result is more than disappointing. First, to explain my setup: I've got a Dell UP2718Q in landscape, 3840x2160, 10-bit in DCI-P3 colorspace at 1.5x scale at 60Hz, side-by-side with a Fujitsu Siemens P17-2 in portrait, 1024x1280, 8-bit in sRGB colorspace at 1x scale at 75Hz 10-bit support isn’t there yet…

Can I ask how you managed to set a different scale factor for each screen? In the system settings I can only find a global scale factor... Or is this only supported using Wayland?

Yes, it is only supported in Wayland because X is limited to one global scaling factor.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by Shared404 »

AzzieElbab wrote: post #67
Shared404 wrote: post #8

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You probably know this already, but you can use KDE with your choice of WM, allowing you to swap out kwin for i3/sway or whatever else floats your boat/gives you tiling. Edit: Spelling

I tried that but ran into weird app behaviour and gave up at some point. Might give it another try at some point

Some apps do behave badly with strictly tiling managers in my experience. Usually what I do is make one floating workspace and open them in there.
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