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Competition and Quarter-Life Crises

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Re: Competition and Quarter-Life Crises

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I'm a bit of a late bloomer, and had my first "quarter life crisis" at 30. I'd like to think this means I'll live to be 120 :) I remember it was my 30th birthday in 2016 and I was taking an airplane to be at a conference I didn't care about in a city I didn't like. "Is this all?" I asked myself. As it turns out, it wasn't.

I quit that job, worked on a startup for 9 months. It failed. I got another job. Soon I'm going to start working on another startup. I started taking my social and dating life more seriously. Like much more seriously. In my 20s, I'd be lucky to get invited to do stuff every couple of months. My weekends are full of stuff these days. I rarely dated, but over the past few years I've rejected women, I've been rejected by women. I'm still not where I want to be: I'd like to build a successful startup, I'd like to have a solid long-term relationship and family, I want to leave my mark on this world.

But honestly -- as someone that's hyper-competitive -- competition isn't healthy. It makes me an asshole and even though, frankly, I do win a lot, it's not as fulfilling as a night out on a great date. Or chatting with friends about the meaning of life. Or enjoying the best damn crème brûlée you've ever had. Winning comes at a cost. Compartmentalizing competition is probably one of the most important character milestones I've achieved yet.

Re: Competition and Quarter-Life Crises

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Having walked this same path, this blog resonates with me. To others reading, however, I would warn against the particular solution the author suggests.

I can’t help but notice the author’s attempts to find new external benchmarks against which to measure himself. I did the exact same thing, literally down to “what if I ran a marathon?”

It worked well temporarily, but it didnt get at the core issue for me: my listlessness stemmed from a disbelief in the value of the benchmark, not the inability to measure up. 10 miles vs 11 didn’t matter; what matters is doing something i believe is valuable. At the end of the day, running didn’t matter, nor did my job (consulting - lol). I needed to find what did matter to me, so that even if I didn’t stack up, I could still point to something and go - “yea, but that’s still objectively awesome”

For those reading this article and saying “this is me, now” I would encourage you to think less about competition and more about values. At the end of the day, competition is a means, not an end; a Surface-level proximal driver, not a core, distal cause.

The key question is: what do you care about right now? What good do you want to do?

Re: Competition and Quarter-Life Crises

#73

I don't know man. I just turned 31 and I feel like my life is just starting. I'm not the smartest dude, but I try really hard. It took me a few tries to get into grad school after working a series of shitty jobs. Now that've finished my PhD (a mixture of computational fluidics and material dynamics), I've been trying to enter the job market in tech (close to family in the bay area) and it's just not happening (like a…

I feel pretty much the same. 2 bachelors, 1 one year master, 1 two year master, some work experience.

Most software companies basically never responded back. The ones that did told me that I didn't have enough experience.

12 months later, I finally got a job, at some small startup that has its good and bad points. The first thing I'm noticing: university was felt much harder and I felt I was learning a lot more there.

I feel completely demotivated that most companies (and all big companies) weren't considering me when I applied to them (and probably still aren't). It crushed my motivation and now I am simply performing to expectations. It does mean my work is quite relaxing :)

Example:

At my work, I recently learned a bit more about React hooks. I knew they existed, but never used them and this time I learned a bit on using them.

In my final university course I learned how to perform Meltdown/Spectre, read security papers and even more advanced attacks.

Re: Competition and Quarter-Life Crises

#75
Naval Ravikant has a healthy way of thinking about this.

If you are envious or jealous of someone's accomplishments or wealth, you must realize that it's impossible to be in that individual's position without taking onboard all the baggage that comes with it. Sure, Warren Buffet is rich, but would you like to swap with him and be 90 years old? Sure, that engineer is getting promoted faster than you, but do you also want their mental health issues?

It's a pernicious fiction to only imagine swapping a single characteristic (their success) and forgetting or not knowing about all the ways in which you're better off (fitness, friends, family, mental health, age).

Re: Competition and Quarter-Life Crises

#76
Competition saddens me. I've always found it boring. Most often it doesn't lead to growth or betterment. I prefer creation and understanding to it.

There is much to explore, plenty of new things to invent, plenty of stories to share.

Our elites have successfully failed. They cornered themselves into zero-sum games where they pocket all the wins. You don't have a choice anymore but to compete or die.

Every creation gets corrupted to bring the level down to tic-tac-toe. Hopefully creators can still see the stars when they die in the gutter.

Re: Competition and Quarter-Life Crises

#77
post #2

There's not much here. He decided to compete against himself and made a list of self-improvement items? He complained about being directionless yet had some clear choices he could make. Cat? Grad School? Girlfriend? Sounds like this person needs a role-model and a mentor.

Not everyone just gets a mentor to tell them the right way to live life. We all aren’t as lucky as you.

I certainly don't have one. I think that finding one is important.

Re: Competition and Quarter-Life Crises

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post #71

I'm a bit of a late bloomer, and had my first "quarter life crisis" at 30. I'd like to think this means I'll live to be 120 :) I remember it was my 30th birthday in 2016 and I was taking an airplane to be at a conference I didn't care about in a city I didn't like. "Is this all?" I asked myself. As it turns out, it wasn't. I quit that job, worked on a startup for 9 months. It failed. I got another job. Soon I'm going…

I had my quarter-life crisis at around the same age, but almost the inverse of what you describe. I spent my 20s coasting through undergrad and coasting through my job (read: not caring much about it). I was primarily focused on friendships, dating, and just generally having a lot of fun. Then I hit my late 20s, and after numerous flings and half-serious relationships, I got into a relationship with someone who totally shifted my perspective. I suddenly became extremely ambitious and focused on my career, and stopped the partying and fun-seeking completely. Now I'm chasing the start-up dream and what I feel like most of my peers were focusing on in their 20s.

Re: Competition and Quarter-Life Crises

#79

I do not believe for a moment that this has anything to do with competition. I have lived in China and kids there are booked fully. Their parents sacrifice everything for their only child but at the same time they put a very high burden on them booking every space of their lives. Just letting the kids fool around, experience what interest them, play and make mistakes is inadmissible. Usually the parents work all day…

I wouldn't go as far as calling racist, but you did make some pretty grand generalizations with seemingly detailed explanation about how "Chinese kids" and society work.

Maybe the people you surround yourself with treat their children like that, but I don't think they, and in turn, your observation can be generalized to all of Chinese.

Same with your generalization with your personal experience, not sure if you're American, but there are plenty Americans(or whichever country you're from) who put a lot of pressure on their children to perform well in what they do, maybe you are just not one of them.

Re: Competition and Quarter-Life Crises

#80

I don't know man. I just turned 31 and I feel like my life is just starting. I'm not the smartest dude, but I try really hard. It took me a few tries to get into grad school after working a series of shitty jobs. Now that've finished my PhD (a mixture of computational fluidics and material dynamics), I've been trying to enter the job market in tech (close to family in the bay area) and it's just not happening (like a…

I feel pretty much the same. 2 bachelors, 1 one year master, 1 two year master, some work experience. Most software companies basically never responded back. The ones that did told me that I didn't have enough experience. 12 months later, I finally got a job, at some small startup that has its good and bad points. The first thing I'm noticing: university was felt much harder and I felt I was learning a lot more there…

| I feel completely demotivated that most companies (and all big companies) weren't considering me when I applied to them (and probably still aren't). It crushed my motivation

I understand that feeling. I lived a very structured life, gym in morning, breakfast in the office right after, clean diet eg. the lockdown + moving back in parents, removed those structures. When I first started looking I got my DS/A in tip-top shape, and consistently applying but after grinding for months with no interviews and ghosting recruiters I've hit a point where I'm tired. I think I've accepted that I'll need a new career and it's been an ego blow but it's freeing. I feel like I'm 17 again with no idea what the hell I'm going to do, thankfully, I've got my health and no dependents.

I too did just learn about hooks for a little side project. React is interesting, I've never done any frontend so it's different. I've also been playing around with rust as a backend too, that's such a cool language.

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