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I'm interested to know - what's the sales pitch for DO over Render? I'm noticing some pricing differences but at first glance it seems they tip Render's direction. I'm also noticing Render is a bit further along (persistent storage, cron jobs, custom domains).
I like the idea of rebuilding Heroku without the command line. It's not for me, but it's probably for somebody. There's just too much of a premium for this over a standard DigitalOcean droplet though. At the low end you're paying double for the same resources, and at the high end you're paying 4x. I deployed a toy Node.js app that was a bit too resource hungry for 1 virtual CPU. The cheapest plan with 2 virtual CPUs…
I like the idea of rebuilding Heroku without the command line. It's not for me, but it's probably for somebody. There's just too much of a premium for this over a standard DigitalOcean droplet though. At the low end you're paying double for the same resources, and at the high end you're paying 4x. I deployed a toy Node.js app that was a bit too resource hungry for 1 virtual CPU. The cheapest plan with 2 virtual CPUs…
Like all DigitalOcean products, the App Platform provides predictable, easy-to-understand pricing that allows you to control costs to prevent surprise bills. I can't see any features listed that enable me to control costs to prevent surprise bills. If a site got submitted to HN and hugged to not-to-death-because-it-autoscales then I'd wake up to a bunch of alerts and massive outbound bandwidth bill. I don't want that…
If you want controllable costs and you don't want people using your service because interest explodes, then just stick to a regular droplet, no?
The entire point of this is that if usage explodes, you want to pay to support that usage. That's the entire feature.
(Also, HN frontpage traffic isn't that much -- it's a few requests per second at most, not thousands per second.)
The only scenario I can imagine where this would be a genuine concern would be if you were subjected to a (D)DoS-type attack. But in that case you still want legitimate users to get through, so you really need a separate DoS-protection layer which is totally orthogonal to this.
Am I missing something?
Heroku gives instant deployment for the most common types of apps (python/java/ruby). It's PaaS done right, it's fantastic. You should really have a look if you're not aware of it, it's only $7 for a starter app.
Problem is, scaling up is about $50 per gigabyte of memory which makes it a dead end for anything non trivial. You're forced to go to digital ocean / Linode / OVH instead to have something affordable.
That leaves Digital Ocean as the only alternative (don't trust Linode) and it sucks because it only gives me a server to manage. I don't want to manage a server I want to run a (python) application. It's 2020 this sort of things should auto deploy from GitHub without bothering me to manage an operating system.
So if I understand correctly, DigitalOcean just built an inferior version of caprover? (for which a digital ocean one-click droplet exists BTW) Caprover is essentially a really nice GUI for docker swarm, Let's encrypt and nginx. https://caprover.com/
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Thanks for the feedback! Autoscaling is not yet supported on the platform (but is coming soon). Before autoscaling lands as a feature, insights based alerting will also land. You'll be able to setup alerts for scaling events, bandwidth, cpu, memory, and more that can be sent via email or slack.
What good are alerts when I sleep? I usually don't even check my personal mail until I'm done at work. There's a lot that can happen in 16h
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AWS has a PaaS: Elastic Beanstalk. Though I would forgive you for forgetting about EB since it sometimes feels like AWS's neglected step child.
I had no idea that was the point of beanstalk. Now I know what I’m doing this evening.
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Their managed Kubernetes offering is a bargain compared to EKS.
We've been happy https://render.com customers for over a year now and on the surface this looks very similar. I'm glad to see another company take a stab at iterating on Heroku while keeping ops burden low. I'm interested to know - what's the sales pitch for DO over Render? I'm noticing some pricing differences but at first glance it seems they tip Render's direction. I'm also noticing Render is a bit further along (…