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Re: Witeboard

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Post by eps »

chrismorgan wrote: post #60
Stratoscope wrote: post #20

I wrote "Hello World!" on witeboard.com using the active pen on my ThinkPad Yoga. It couldn't keep up with my writing and made a mess of it. Out of curiosity, I tried ziteboard.com (which came up in a search for "online whiteboard"), and it rendered my handwriting perfectly. Here are the results from the two sites: https://imgur.com/a/nCKMEKE I repeated the experiment on my Galaxy Note 8 with its active pen, with sim…

My first three tests of anything like this are: 1. Does it keep up with rapid movement? (If something fails this, it’s a total non-starter.) 2. Does the eraser on the back of my pen work? (If not, it’s very frustrating and a very bad sign.) 3. Does pressure sensitivity vary the thickness of lines? (I just find it’s a bad sign if something lacks this—tools that support pressure sensitivity seem to pretty consistently…

> 2. Does the eraser on the back of my pen work? (If not, it’s very frustrating and a very bad sign.)

That's just such a random feature to expect from a web app, leave alone to use as a "very bad sign". I can see how it can be useful, but I disagree that the lack of it is critical.

Re: Witeboard

#73

Post by rebuilder »

eps wrote: post #71
chrismorgan wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My first three tests of anything like this are: 1. Does it keep up with rapid movement? (If something fails this, it’s a total non-starter.) 2. Does the eraser on the back of my pen work? (If not, it’s very frustrating and a very bad sign.) 3. Does pressure sensitivity vary the thickness of lines? (I just find it’s a bad sign if something lacks this—tools that support pressure sensitivity seem to pretty consistently…

> 2. Does the eraser on the back of my pen work? (If not, it’s very frustrating and a very bad sign.) That's just such a random feature to expect from a web app, leave alone to use as a "very bad sign". I can see how it can be useful, but I disagree that the lack of it is critical.

The eraser not working is a sign the app hasn't been thought out from the perspective of graphic tablet users, which would likely be a pretty major target demographic.

Re: Witeboard

#74

Post by eps »

rebuilder wrote: post #73
eps wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 2. Does the eraser on the back of my pen work? (If not, it’s very frustrating and a very bad sign.) That's just such a random feature to expect from a web app, leave alone to use as a "very bad sign". I can see how it can be useful, but I disagree that the lack of it is critical.

The eraser not working is a sign the app hasn't been thought out from the perspective of graphic tablet users, which would likely be a pretty major target demographic.

Sure, but not to the level of a "very bad sign". Especially when the whole thing is sluggish to begin with and seems to be struggling with far more basic operational tasks.

Re: Witeboard

#75

Post by creata »

rcarmo wrote: post #66

I want one of these that is free, cross-platform and lets me paste/drop in in some icons I have. And as a native app, not a web page. I realize that is almost impossible these days, but one can dream.

Why do you want it as a native app? I, personally, prefer web pages wherever possible, because I know that they are well-sandboxed and can be run pretty much everywhere.

Re: Witeboard

#76

Post by chrismorgan »

eps wrote: post #71
chrismorgan wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My first three tests of anything like this are: 1. Does it keep up with rapid movement? (If something fails this, it’s a total non-starter.) 2. Does the eraser on the back of my pen work? (If not, it’s very frustrating and a very bad sign.) 3. Does pressure sensitivity vary the thickness of lines? (I just find it’s a bad sign if something lacks this—tools that support pressure sensitivity seem to pretty consistently…

> 2. Does the eraser on the back of my pen work? (If not, it’s very frustrating and a very bad sign.) That's just such a random feature to expect from a web app, leave alone to use as a "very bad sign". I can see how it can be useful, but I disagree that the lack of it is critical.

Not all styli have erasers, but a very substantial fraction do. Detecting it is a basic operation when you’re using the Pointer Events API (event.button == 5 and event.buttons &== 32). I use not supporting this as a proxy for other basic errors of implementation, such as using mouse events instead of pointer events. This is why I say it’s a very bad sign. It’s a simple thing that I can point at and say, “this thing is half-baked; they have very probably done a bad job”, without needing to go through a larger battery of comparative and subjective tests.

Re: Witeboard

#77

Post by denysvitali »

creata wrote: post #75
rcarmo wrote: post #66

I want one of these that is free, cross-platform and lets me paste/drop in in some icons I have. And as a native app, not a web page. I realize that is almost impossible these days, but one can dream.

Why do you want it as a native app? I, personally, prefer web pages wherever possible, because I know that they are well-sandboxed and can be run pretty much everywhere.

performance maybe? But we can use something in between: WASM

Re: Witeboard

#78

Post by boomskats »

teglsbo wrote: post #46
zuhayeer wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check out https://excalidraw.com/

Thank you! What I am missing is not a whiteboard. Whiteboard is just a solution that works in the office. The underlying requirement is: I want to be able to express myself in a visual way together with others. So a solution to the same requirement, that works remote, shouldn't have to mimick a whiteboard. Instead I would like the ability to : * Draw straight rectangles, lines and arrows * Type text with my keyboard…

So I find miro.com does exactly all of this very well. It just happens to try to do a whole bunch of other stuff alongside it, which makes the initial investment in moving your team to using it quite substantial.

Re: Witeboard

#79

Post by StavrosK »

rcarmo wrote: post #66

I want one of these that is free, cross-platform and lets me paste/drop in in some icons I have. And as a native app, not a web page. I realize that is almost impossible these days, but one can dream.

It's not impossible at all, it should be fairly straightforward to learn something like React Native or Flutter or Swift and make it, and we'll love you for it!

Re: Witeboard

#80

Post by lovasoa »

Stratoscope wrote: post #20

I wrote "Hello World!" on witeboard.com using the active pen on my ThinkPad Yoga. It couldn't keep up with my writing and made a mess of it. Out of curiosity, I tried ziteboard.com (which came up in a search for "online whiteboard"), and it rendered my handwriting perfectly. Here are the results from the two sites: https://imgur.com/a/nCKMEKE I repeated the experiment on my Galaxy Note 8 with its active pen, with sim…

Could you also give feedback on https://wbo.ophir.dev ?

Contrarily to the other mentioned before, it is opensource [1], and you can easily host your own instance if you don't like the idea of sharing your whiteboards on a random server on the internet.

[1] https://github.com/lovasoa/whitebophir

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