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Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by Mindwipe »

rightbyte wrote: post #64
jeffbee wrote: post #25

Honest question: why is it appropriate for Apple to take 30% off the top of everything, but Samsung doesn't get 30% of Disney+ subs?

I wonder what that stupid Rakuten TV button on my remote for "my" Samsung TV cost Rakuten to put there. I don't want a hardcoded quickbutton. I haven't seen any dashboard ads on it yet but that is probably becouse there is no regional service yet where I live. I wonder if this is worth it for Samsung in the long term to piss their customers off and get the image of a cheap rippoff brand.

> I wonder what that stupid Rakuten TV button on my remote for "my" Samsung TV cost Rakuten to put there. I don't want a hardcoded quickbutton.

It's basically mandatory for Netflix at this point. Unless you're a very major provider they really want Netflix will not certify a device unless there's a Netflix button on it.

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Post by ksec »

ascar wrote: post #13

This should just straight out be forbidden and regulation is the only way out of it. Voting with money is not going to stop this as all major players with high-end devices are pushing this. On top of it, this information is usually a nice surprise after you already bought and setup the device. To even further push the boundaries, they are adding (more) advertising to devices that have been purchased years ago!

I think Apple needs to make a TV set. Only then will the marketing message for TV privacy gets pushed through.

But from another angle, I think majority of population would not mind targeted advertising if that means their TV are much cheaper. If we think about it, it is kind of ridiculously cheap you can get a 4K 40" LCD TV delivered to you for under $300.

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Post by troydavis »

buro9 wrote: post #72

If you don't like this: 1) Buy an Nvidia Shield, Google Chromecast, or Apple TV 2) Connect that to your TV 3) Factory reset your TV and never connect it to the internet again

This really is the only viable option right now, and specifically only the Apple TV. The Shield and Chromecast are slight improvements, but of the mainstream TV choices, Apple TV is literally the only product that puts your privacy first.

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Post by yfy33 »

buro9 wrote: post #72

If you don't like this: 1) Buy an Nvidia Shield, Google Chromecast, or Apple TV 2) Connect that to your TV 3) Factory reset your TV and never connect it to the internet again

You think a Google fucking Chromecast is better? Its entire reason for existing is to expand your advertising profile to include your watching habits. Its behavior in this area manifests in other ways, but it is the exact same thing.

How is that not obvious?

Ed: oh no did I offend the precious snowflakes by using a bad word? The flag button is probably what you were looking for, you incompetent buffoons thinking Google’s got your back on anything advertising or privacy related

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Post by munchbunny »

junon wrote: post #27

I had one of those TVs. The ads show up in the menu bar. I called them and told them I paid over a thousand dollars for this TV and do not want ads. They said they'd be happy to help me disable my internet connection. I was so dumbfounded at the petty response that I simply hung up. Lost a customer for life. I will never again buy a Samsung product.

This, and the built-in voice assistant, is why I have a blanket rule that the smart TV will never touch the internet.

If I want to stream things, that can go through the gaming PC that's right next to the TV.

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Post by rbecker »

manuelabeledo wrote: post #19

I keep seeing people who argue that TVs would be notably "more expensive" if they didn't come with ads. Let's say that the average Samsung TV costs $1,000, ad revenue per person is around $30 a year, and the average lifespan of a TV is 10 years. I own a Samsung TV since 2016. I think they may have pushed 5 firmware updates since then. There is no way I can be convinced that Samsung needs to increase the price of TVs…

> I keep seeing people who argue that TVs would be notably "more expensive" if they didn't come with ads.

Even if that were true, it ignores a very important question - where does that ad money come from?

Companies buy ads (to get you to spend money on something you don't need, or due to an arms race with their competitors, fighting over a limited market) with money the get from consumers, that pay more for their products.

All ads "contribute" to society is change in consumer behavior, that is ultimately paid by those same consumers. Even ignoring that behavior change, consumers are, on the whole, financially hurt, not helped, by ads.

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Post by stingraycharles »

junon wrote: post #27

I had one of those TVs. The ads show up in the menu bar. I called them and told them I paid over a thousand dollars for this TV and do not want ads. They said they'd be happy to help me disable my internet connection. I was so dumbfounded at the petty response that I simply hung up. Lost a customer for life. I will never again buy a Samsung product.

I bought a Samsung smart TV in 2014. I then went abroad for a few years, and came back in 2016.

Unfortunately, in the meantime, the whole smart hub stopped working. The answer was the update the smart hub. Unfortunately, you have to update the smart hub through the smart hub which doesn’t work.

Samsung support was useless. I now have a “dumb” TV with a separate Apple TV and it’s much, much better.

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