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This is the "slippers and sex toy" deflection. If the user's don't like the slippers (new features) they can use the sex toy to fornicate themselves.
and this is a bad thing? O:-)
> Our plan is instead to merge Gitter’s features into Element (or next generations of Element) itself and then - if and only if Element has achieved parity with Gitter based on the above list - we expect to upgrade the deployment on gitter.im to a Gitter-customised version of Element. The inevitable side-effect is that we’ll be adding new features to Element rather than Gitter going forwards. Wonder what existing Git…
Additional topics discussed in our just-released conversation[1] with GitLab and Element leads: 1. What happened to "ChatOps" and why is GitLab divesting in this space? 2. Who contacted whom? What are some details of the acquisition process and negotiations? 3. What does this mean at a practical sense for existing Gitter users? 4. What's going to happen in the next 6, 12, and 18 months? [1]: https://changelog.com/pod…
1. ChatOps is still a feature of GitLab https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/ci/chatops/ and supports multiple chat platforms. GitLab doesn't need to own the chat to make chatops work. 2. GitLab contacted Matrix. I think 3. and 4. have answers in https://matrix.org/blog/2020/09/30/welcoming-gitter-to-matri...
Soon https://element.io will have that full access. Now is a good time to check your Gitlab access grants: https://gitlab.com/profile/applications
[1] "Support restricting OAuth tokens to specific projects and groups " https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/22115
I really like to use IRC on the terminal via Irssi. Can Irssi be used to access this matrix thing? If not, is there some nice matrix command line client in the Debian repos? Or maybe someone could just make an IRC server which is a bridge to matrix?
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I love this move, since I'm trying to move to Matrix as my primary chat where possible. Even more so since some of the mentioned features are sorely needed in Element, like threads. But Gitlab is a for-profit company. I don't see this as Gitter laying down arms, but rather as Gitlab not being able to monetize Gitter enough to justify keeping it in the company. They probably sold it for a very reasonable amount.
Right. The point is, if a competitor who was a for-profit company was willing to federate with Element, as a first-party contributor not just reluctantly "I guess you can use our integration API's for that and we won't stop you... yet" -- that would be watershed moment in hopes of federation/integration instead of silos being a thing. That is indeed not what happened. It's just an acquisition. It does not actually gi…
The reality is that bridging a big existing network is a significant undertaking and nobody has done it before (other than possibly Matrix.org and Freenode, but it’s not like Freenode is letting us talk TS6; we come in as clients). So the acquisition is basically a catalyst to break this impasse. We’re hoping that Rocket.Chat, Mattermost, Teams, Slack, Discord will watch what we do and copy it with more confidence to join the network. At least that’s the dream :)
If you granted Gitter access to Gitlab, you granted it full read access to everything in your Gitlab account. This is because Gitlab does not yet support restricted access grants [1]. Soon https://element.io will have that full access. Now is a good time to check your Gitlab access grants: https://gitlab.com/profile/applications [1] "Support restricting OAuth tokens to specific projects and groups " https://gitlab.co…
I really like to use IRC on the terminal via Irssi. Can Irssi be used to access this matrix thing? If not, is there some nice matrix command line client in the Debian repos? Or maybe someone could just make an IRC server which is a bridge to matrix?
Be aware that the bridges between matrix.org and IRC are often unreliable.
I really like to use IRC on the terminal via Irssi. Can Irssi be used to access this matrix thing? If not, is there some nice matrix command line client in the Debian repos? Or maybe someone could just make an IRC server which is a bridge to matrix?
> Can Irssi be used to access this matrix thing? Yup. I haven't tried it myself and I think there are different ways to set that up but this could be a start (I think this is more targeted towards bridging matrix and IRC, which may or may not be what you want): https://matrix.org/bridges/#irc > If not, is there some nice matrix command line client in the Debian repos? Not sure what's in the mainline debian repos but…