This is insanity. Stuff like this just seems to get worse every year smh.
Netgear Firmware Requires Online Registration
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#72My new clothes washer has an app. It requires access to location, and phone settings or the app closes by design. I don't think this stuff stops without legislation.
Things like this are why I buy "dumb" equipment, which will remain obedient to you and not the manufacturer. My white goods are all many decades old. Washer and dryer are both entirely computer-free (mechanical controls) and don't even contain a single semiconductor (unless you count the indicator bulbs I replaced with LEDs.)
Many people often think the house/life of a software developer is filled with "smart" things, and are astounded when they hear what I use. Maybe the younger ones are indeed surrounding themselves with this sort of predatory "smartness" and couldn't care less about the downsides, but not everyone in the industry thinks that way; sadly, I think those who don't want this crap are a dying breed.
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#73My new clothes washer has an app. It requires access to location, and phone settings or the app closes by design. I don't think this stuff stops without legislation.
You can't legislate morals. Don't depend on the government to solve your problems, vote with your wallet.
You can absolutely legislate morals, and a lot of laws are exactly that: codified morals.
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#74Soon you will not be able to use a switch on a private network not connected to the internet thanks to these assholes... No more Netgear device for me!
I wonder how hard it is to build your own switch these days? Maybe something built around a Pi class SBC?
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#75Landfills will welcome the load of Netgear hardware that cannot be sold as used anymore, although perfectly working, because of this nonsense.
Which is exactly the intended effect. Non transferable -> more sales, they reason. See also Microsoft and Sony’s latest console releases.
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#76> You can login and access all features through the local browser UI 3 times without registering the switch through your netgear.com account. How generous, for a device that people buy (not rent) from them, and pay actual money for (not receive for free). And apparently Netgear didn't even feel the need to bother including any contrived excuse as to why this is being introduced. What a time to be alive.
This is becoming the dark-pattern-du-jour. I get this with videoconferencing too (webex, teams), where the app starts downloading and the ability to do what you want (use the browser) is hidden or delayed until you've failed.
If you mean dark as in Darth Vader choke grip dark, and not dark as in subtle under the radar manipulation dark pattern, then yes.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's really no better choice than Arris SURFboard if you want a DOCSIS bridge that just sits there and works all the time.
LOL. NO. Arris (formerly Motorola) modems have a overheating reliability issue. Especially the Surfboard ones you like. SB6666 Go search online. You'll see. I've had a number of them do this, and so I avoid their stuff.
This is true, they definitely do have an overheating issue. That's why I was looking at other modems aside from upgrading my service.
But I do plan on modding mine so it's not something I specifically would run into.
Re: Netgear Firmware Requires Online Registration
#78My new clothes washer has an app. It requires access to location, and phone settings or the app closes by design. I don't think this stuff stops without legislation.
Things like this are why I buy "dumb" equipment, which will remain obedient to you and not the manufacturer. My white goods are all many decades old. Washer and dryer are both entirely computer-free (mechanical controls) and don't even contain a single semiconductor (unless you count the indicator bulbs I replaced with LEDs.) Many people often think the house/life of a software developer is filled with "smart" things…
Same here. I try to buy appliances as dumb as possible. I know how fast software is being deprecated and my washing machine, fridge etc. are supposed to work for decades, not months.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, I'm running a SB6190 right now. I guess I'm going to go with either an SB8200 or a motorolla MB8600. One thing I like about the SB8200 is that if I ever go back to running a "business" connection at home I can have a second IP assigned to the second WAN port it has. I also plan on modifying the modem to fit into my network rack without a shelf like so: https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/ft579e/finally_go…
Be aware the SB8200 runs a Puma chipset. For all I know modern versions of this chipset on modems are OK now, but I have a headache that will probably never going away trying to work around latency and DOS issues with one of these in a situation where I couldn't change out the DOCSIS modem for reasons that were out of my control. It's in my "never touch again for any reason" bucket now as a result.
Incorrect, the SB8200 has a Broadcom BCM3390: http://en.techinfodepot.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Arris_SB8200