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Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by dredmorbius »

catchmeifyoucan wrote: post #64
dredmorbius wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. Is there a demo / walkthrough? OK, found & am reading https://getamna.com/blog/post/customer-research/ My preference would be CLI / terminal centric. https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/6bgowu/what_if...

Hey - nice! Yup that was some user research we had done. Working on making the website better as well. Few more details here: getamna.com/demo Interesting! Currently the solution is primarily a GUI based system using Chromium for rendering. But the data is stored into a JSON file organized a group of tasks with website urls. I haven't explored too much around a CLI before. I know that org-mode is super popular, but I…

Putting the browser (and other tools) inside a workflow box seems long overdue. That alone is genius. It's a key principle I've been leaning toward as well, though with a somewhat different target as to projects and scale.

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Post by eliza1wright »

ssivark wrote: post #39
ssivark wrote: post #3

I... have a problem. I recently had ~1600 tabs open in Firefox. With a lot of painstaking effort I cut it down to ~750. Quite some distance to go still. The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. I wish there were easy REPL-ish programmatic access to the list/dict of tabs (so I could filter out all GitHub tabs, or close all stackoverflow tabs, etc) and that was a first class citizen in the browser i…

In response to some of the suggestions: 1. Tab groups: I have been an extensive user of tab groups in the past (when it was native in Firefox); it’s very helpful if your tabs cleave nicely into less than a dozen or so projects/themes, and you have no more than a few hundred tabs. 2. Tree style tabs: The extensions I’ve tried tend to be very slow and non-ergonomic for my use case. 3. The % trick: Didn’t know this; tha…

I agree that bookmarks are a relic. Workona (http://workona.com/) might be of interest to you. It combines tab groups with resources (our term for bookmarks). But unlike regular bookmarks, resources can be grouped, ordered, or reorganized easily. They display important info at a glance (favicon, page name, type of object like GDoc). They won't open a duplicate tab if one is already open, and you can even replace your open tabs with a different set of resources (you choose which ones). Oh, and you can share them. So, bookmarks but redesigned for modern work. Would love to hear what you think if you decide to try them.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by userbinator »

kroltan wrote: post #4
userbinator wrote: post #2

I'm probably in the minority because I never use tabs much ---- I prefer multiple separate (overlapping) windows that I can size and arrange as desired, because I often use the information from multiple sites simultaneously. I've seen a lot of others who flip back and forth between two tabs many times, trying to compare them, and have never thought they could open two windows and put them next to each other. Of cours…

I found myself using separate windows more during my time with a heavily customized Manjaro install, where I used a tiling window manager and had lots of ways of quickly adjusting my window layout with minimal extra information needed. I think managing windows in say... Windows is terrible (even if macOS manages to be even worse). There are a few third-party applications to sort of emulate tiling WMs, but they're ver…

I've tried tiling and it just doesn't feel right to me --- not being able to resize windows to the right dimensions is frustrating. I guess that's one thing I agreed with Microsoft about; the earliest versions of Windows had a tiling WM.

Also, by comparison I meant reading comparison, not visual comparison. But even the latter is easier with separate windows: resize them to the same dimensions, then put them on top of each other and increase the transparency of the top one.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by hinkley »

ssivark wrote: post #3

I... have a problem. I recently had ~1600 tabs open in Firefox. With a lot of painstaking effort I cut it down to ~750. Quite some distance to go still. The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. I wish there were easy REPL-ish programmatic access to the list/dict of tabs (so I could filter out all GitHub tabs, or close all stackoverflow tabs, etc) and that was a first class citizen in the browser i…

Without addons, I “solve“ this by opening a separate window for each train of thought. When it comes time to go Marie Kondo I either close the window or bookmark all of the tabs for later.

This works great at home. At work I’m constantly fishing for which window some bit of information I currently need is in (though I’m not sure one window would fix that any better). So even MMMV.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by teekert »

kevincox wrote: post #58
teekert wrote: post #5

I keep my tabs under control and always set FF to start with a fresh session so I loose all tabs every day. Works for me. The new FF for android though forces a new tab to get to my favorite websites and does not allow for a clean session after close, so I now have 47 open, mostly the same 4 websites :s

Currently there is a "clear private data on quit" which you can use. Just uncheck everything but tabs. You have to manually select "Quit" from the menu to trigger it. Beta versions have the option to close tabs after a set inactivity time which I can't wait to land.

Thanx for the tips but I can't wait until hitting the address bar just gives me an overview of my favorite sites again. I don't need any new tabs, I only used them to store thing for later (as in next) reading.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by teekert »

hinkley wrote: post #74
ssivark wrote: post #3

I... have a problem. I recently had ~1600 tabs open in Firefox. With a lot of painstaking effort I cut it down to ~750. Quite some distance to go still. The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. I wish there were easy REPL-ish programmatic access to the list/dict of tabs (so I could filter out all GitHub tabs, or close all stackoverflow tabs, etc) and that was a first class citizen in the browser i…

Without addons, I “solve“ this by opening a separate window for each train of thought. When it comes time to go Marie Kondo I either close the window or bookmark all of the tabs for later. This works great at home. At work I’m constantly fishing for which window some bit of information I currently need is in (though I’m not sure one window would fix that any better). So even MMMV.

If you need entire browser sessions for some bits of info that are in there, somewhere, is there really not a better way?

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Post by pseudalopex »

GhostVII wrote: post #9
ssivark wrote: post #3

I... have a problem. I recently had ~1600 tabs open in Firefox. With a lot of painstaking effort I cut it down to ~750. Quite some distance to go still. The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. I wish there were easy REPL-ish programmatic access to the list/dict of tabs (so I could filter out all GitHub tabs, or close all stackoverflow tabs, etc) and that was a first class citizen in the browser i…

At that point isn't it better to just set up some bookmarks? Navigating 700 tabs is much harder than navigating a hierarchical bookmark list. Personally I only keep open tabs that I am actively working in, if I have more than ~15 I get less productive since I have to hunt through to fine the one I need. Several times a day I just clear out all my tabs aside from a couple pinned ones.

Bookmarks discard window layout, scroll bar position, back/forward history, form contents, etc. They don't stay in sync with tabs so you have to delete and recreate them.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by beagle3 »

LandR wrote: post #12
ssivark wrote: post #3

I... have a problem. I recently had ~1600 tabs open in Firefox. With a lot of painstaking effort I cut it down to ~750. Quite some distance to go still. The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. I wish there were easy REPL-ish programmatic access to the list/dict of tabs (so I could filter out all GitHub tabs, or close all stackoverflow tabs, etc) and that was a first class citizen in the browser i…

Tree Style Tabs? And then you can organise them somewhat into groups ? I use tree style tabs with some custom theming to make it take up only enough room on the left to show the site favicon. It then opens up when I mouse-over.

I used TreeStyleTabs for a few years. But then, one day, I accidentally closed it -- and the browser was running so much faster I can't stand TST anymore.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by beagle3 »

superkuh wrote: post #42
ssivark wrote: post #3

I... have a problem. I recently had ~1600 tabs open in Firefox. With a lot of painstaking effort I cut it down to ~750. Quite some distance to go still. The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. I wish there were easy REPL-ish programmatic access to the list/dict of tabs (so I could filter out all GitHub tabs, or close all stackoverflow tabs, etc) and that was a first class citizen in the browser i…

I'm there with you (1500+ in one browser instance). But I don't consider it a problem. I have tab suspend and full text tab search via add-ons, I group my tabs linearly by topic and date, and the older 1/3 of tabs I know position by heart. Because I use a single process browser+noscript instead of a "modern" JS-engine-centric browser (ie, Chrome/FF) even with 600 tabs of 1500 loaded in my ram usage is still under 3 G…

What's the full text tab search addon you use? And doesn't it conflict with the automatic tab suspend?

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by unabst »

+1 for Cluster. I settled for OneTab like many, until it deleted all my tabs. Happened to many people, and is fatal. Then I used Session Buddy. Only wished it had drag and drop, which is when I found Cluster. Drag and drop is important for when you branch out from the group and for weeding and consolidating tabs. Cluster works great with a big screen too which is what I have.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cluster-window-tab...

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/session-buddy/edac...

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