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Re: How Akbar came to love books despite never learning to read (2019)

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Post by dang » Wed, Sep 09, 2020, 3:14 AM UTC

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Tensions mostly exist in the region because of colonialism and the poorly-managed independence of India and subsequently of Pakistan. If, nonetheless, you wanted to pin the blame for modern religious issues in South Asia on a Mughal, it would probably be Aurangzeb, Akbar’s great-grandson, who was definitely not tolerant. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb

Stop gaslighting. Neither the Islamic colonization nor the Anglo-Saxon one nor the Christian one (by Portugal etc.) was ever a 'benign' entity. White guilt over the brutalities of their ancestors does not automatically render the previous mass-murderers any better. The scores of destroyed temples/shrines/statues all over the Indian sub-continent, and the utter lack of any ancient ones in the North of India should be…

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Re: How Akbar came to love books despite never learning to read (2019)

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Post by n_t » Wed, Sep 09, 2020, 7:56 AM UTC

puranjay wrote: post #35

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Despite the hype, Akbar was not tolerant at all. Like most Muslim kings in India, he was heavy-handed towards Hindus but was also towards Shia Muslim [1]. He ordered numerous massacre of Hindus (e.g. massacre in Garha in 1560 AD[2], order to weight Janeu - a cotton thread worn by hindus - of killed Hindus which weighed 200kg [3], rewarded Abd al-Qadir Badauni with gold coins who soak his Islamic beard in Hindu infide…

Nations are usually built on lies. Most countries would likely fall apart if they were completely truthful about their histories. In India's case, the whitewashing of Mughal rule was a necessity because there are still a substantial number of Muslims living in India, and painting their ancestors - the Mughals - as barbaric invaders would likely lead to violence (especially when seen in the context of the Partition vi…

I hear what you are saying but don't agree that "let's brush it under carpet" approach would be a mature one. My assessment is that current religious problems in India exist because there was no closure on hindu-muslim issues which started with Mughals and ended with partition. No political or religious leader addressed this issue with genuine concern and acknowledgement of history. Instead, all (including Gandhi to current politicians) took ostrich approach to deny the rift with slogans of unity, while pressurizing Hindus to forget-and-forgive since it appeals more to Hindus. This eventually gave rise to "pseudo-secularism" in India which is essentially anti-Hindu but pro-Islam stance. It is my opinion that due to this, distrust between Hindus and Muslims still lingers on and always will. Better approach would have been a proper closure of all the violence, conversions, atrocities, etc of past and then focus on moving on. And finally, mature approach would have been to figure out what is proper closure?

Re: How Akbar came to love books despite never learning to read (2019)

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Post by known » Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 11:12 AM UTC

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puranjay wrote: post #35

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Nations are usually built on lies. Most countries would likely fall apart if they were completely truthful about their histories. In India's case, the whitewashing of Mughal rule was a necessity because there are still a substantial number of Muslims living in India, and painting their ancestors - the Mughals - as barbaric invaders would likely lead to violence (especially when seen in the context of the Partition vi…

> In India's case, the whitewashing of Mughal rule was a necessity because there are still a substantial number of Muslims living in India .... There are substantial level of German living in Germany, let's not teach them about Nazis? Interpreted other way you are advocating appeasement of people who already have superiority complex due to their religious beliefs. History should be taught as it is? No lies. If Marath…

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