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Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

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Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

#71

A bullmastiff easily puts off as much heat as another human (maybe two) and doubles as an alarm clock.

Our cat acts as an alarm clock. Pretty close to 5:30 every day. The problem is that no one in the house needs to get up at 5:30 (except the person that doesn't want the cat to shit inside).

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#72
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The ideal number of cats per home in New Zealand is zero. Cats prey on local wildlife, much of which is near extinction as it is because of introduced predators including humans. Those who advocate for banning cats in New Zealand have a pretty strong case.

wouldn't it be more efficient to ban humans?

Not unless you extirpated the cats first.

At which point, why ban the humans?

Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

#73

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Have you tried just adding more blankets. I never run heating at night because I find that even at 0c outside I can just stack up 4 blankets and still be warm.

Having slept outdoors a lot in the past, I think many people underestimate the importance of the ground/floor/bed in keeping from freezing. If you have excess blankets, it could make more difference to put them under you as opposed to above you. Even spruce branches or cardboard will lift you from the ground enough to make a difference in a pinch.

I agree - I packed an air mattress to sleep on during camping when it was cold on the ground. The air didn't insulate as well as I expected so I was freezing from below.

There are so many things around us that are such incredible achievements in comfort over not having them. It is a good experience living without some of them for a while to get appreciation for it:

- electricity - heating - beds - running water - showers - drains (sewer? I mean being able to pour out water in the kitchen, not having to carry it out) - washing machine - (etc)

Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

#74

I had to dry out my boots once with a panel heater, after a passing driver decided to enliven my rainy-day walking commute by driving through an overflowing gutter and drenching me from head to toe. I wouldn't have liked to try it with a cat instead...

Use enough duct tape and a cat would be fine for this

Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

#75

I was once desperately poor. Too poor to turn on the heat. But I did have access to friendly cats, so I've been through this experiment in real life. One cat stuffed under the blankets at night is a significant improvement. But as you add more and more cats, the improvement becomes only incremental. I eventually learned that two cats was really the best one could hope for. Best positioning is between the legs, and wi…

I can confirm this. Years back I had those (now deceased) two cats who liked to get under the blankets while we were sleeping, but apparently they liked me more than my girlfriend, so until they decided to leave I had those furry warmers lying down along my legs, one here and one there. A couple more cats along my arms and I could easily turn off the heater. House is small though, so max 2 cats at a time to avoid hygiene related issues. These days I have two different cats; one loves sleeping between my torso and the right arm keeping his head on my shoulder, pretty much like a baby, and the other one from time to time climbs on my belly to sleep there after asking permission with a soft meow. Luckily he isn't the fatter of the two:) Cats are incredible.

Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

#76
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Unless they are fixed. Charge a high pet licensing fee if they are not.

PAWS in Seattle will give you a cat and it comes for a coupon for a free spay or neuter (often kittens are too young at adoption time). Of course the fee for adoption is higher than the cost of the surgery, so you are paying for it whether you use it or not.

There are often very cheap city/county options too: where I live its less than $30 for a spay/neuter + rabies vacc (significantly less than a private vet would charge).

Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

#77
post #7

The ideal number of cats per home in New Zealand is zero. Cats prey on local wildlife, much of which is near extinction as it is because of introduced predators including humans. Those who advocate for banning cats in New Zealand have a pretty strong case.

Is there evidence that cats are actually a problem for local wildlife in NZ? Which species are under threat?

I've found this belief is common, and it may well be true in some places (including NZ), but it's not true in many, too. In the UK for example there's no evidence to suggest cats are a problem for bird populations[1]. There is a lot of wild extrapolation going on with this subject.

Often I see people quoting statistics such as an absolute number of bird deaths caused by cats, not really understanding that you can't tell from just that statistic whether or not the species are under threat.

[1] https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/advice/gardening-...

Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

#78

I was once desperately poor. Too poor to turn on the heat. But I did have access to friendly cats, so I've been through this experiment in real life. One cat stuffed under the blankets at night is a significant improvement. But as you add more and more cats, the improvement becomes only incremental. I eventually learned that two cats was really the best one could hope for. Best positioning is between the legs, and wi…

Have you tried just adding more blankets. I never run heating at night because I find that even at 0c outside I can just stack up 4 blankets and still be warm.

I spent a full winter sleeping on a second story screened porch (it was a private porch off my very small bedroom and I figured that since I didn't mind sleeping in the cold, I might as well save the floor space in my bedroom and move the bed to the porch).

On the very coldest nights I would get out my 10˚F mummy bag, and use a couple blankets on top of that, but I was never uncomfortable, even well below zero (Fahrenheit).

Getting _out_ of bed was pretty miserable at times, but it was only a few steps to the door into the house.

Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

#80
post #42

I was once desperately poor. Too poor to turn on the heat. But I did have access to friendly cats, so I've been through this experiment in real life. One cat stuffed under the blankets at night is a significant improvement. But as you add more and more cats, the improvement becomes only incremental. I eventually learned that two cats was really the best one could hope for. Best positioning is between the legs, and wi…

Electric blankets were pretty awesome for this circumstance. Incredibly cheap to operate, extremely effective. (I always had trouble washing them properly though)

Electric blankets used to be awesome. The ones nowadays don't seem as strong as the ones I remember from 40 years or so ago. I think they got nerfed.
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