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Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86

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Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86

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My Safari has the full path 13.1.1 (15609.2.9.1.2)

Weird! I see: https://i.imgur.com/6r73iFt.png (v13.1.2) Is there any chance you've checked "Preferences > Advanced > Show Full Website Address"?

Can confirm, it is checked. This does seems like something that should be a user configured option.

Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86

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IMO this is the real reason why they're pushing hard towards this: However, it's also worth considering that making the web address less important, as this feature does, benefits Google as a company. Google's goal with Accelerated Mobile Pages (AMP) and similar technologies is to keep users on Google-hosted content as much as possible, and Chrome for Android already modifies the address bar on AMP pages to hide that…

We are going back to AOL days. That didn’t work out so well for AOL in the long run. It’s kind of crazy to me you can’t do marketing now without at least discussing Google and Facebook these days. Edit: at least you knew you were the customer with AOL and paid them with clear terms for access.

The comparison to AOL was my first thought also.

Basically, Google have lived long enough to see themselves become the villain.

Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86

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IMO this is the real reason why they're pushing hard towards this: However, it's also worth considering that making the web address less important, as this feature does, benefits Google as a company. Google's goal with Accelerated Mobile Pages (AMP) and similar technologies is to keep users on Google-hosted content as much as possible, and Chrome for Android already modifies the address bar on AMP pages to hide that…

To play the devil's advocate, Apple's Safari has been hiding full addresses for quite a while, without having any direct benefit as a company as far as I know.

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Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86

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so... is this a chromium thing or a chrome thing? if it is just exclusive to chrome, then maybe it's time to finally give the new microsoft edge a try.

The official build of Chromium tracks Google Chrome quite closely, so I feel confident assuming that the change is there as well, even though I haven't checked. But since Chromium is open source, I'm not sure anyone can really answer that question. Whether the change is in Microsoft Edge depends on how far Microsoft is willing to diverge from mainline (and where specifically they want to spend their resources).

Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86

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IMO this is the real reason why they're pushing hard towards this: However, it's also worth considering that making the web address less important, as this feature does, benefits Google as a company. Google's goal with Accelerated Mobile Pages (AMP) and similar technologies is to keep users on Google-hosted content as much as possible, and Chrome for Android already modifies the address bar on AMP pages to hide that…

It need not be malice. It maybe because the design people think people are too stupid to understand URLs.

As other comment mentioned, Safari does it too.

The trend seems to be abstracting away stuff like filesystem. Many people I know don't even organize stuff into folders on their phones. Everyone seems to dump everything in Download or something like that. The existence of separate applications for Music, Video and Photo content makes it irrelevant to some extent.

Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86

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Firefox/Mozilla is largely funded with the search deal which is usually paid by Google. Google has a vested interest in Firefox staying alive for competitive/monopoly reasons, especially now that IE is official a Chrome skin. e.g. https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2020/08/13/mozilla...

Wasn't the last days' layoffs direct consequence of that deal expiring later this year?

Nobody knows, since we dont know if the deal will renew

Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86

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IMO this is the real reason why they're pushing hard towards this: However, it's also worth considering that making the web address less important, as this feature does, benefits Google as a company. Google's goal with Accelerated Mobile Pages (AMP) and similar technologies is to keep users on Google-hosted content as much as possible, and Chrome for Android already modifies the address bar on AMP pages to hide that…

> Chrome for Android already modifies the address bar on AMP pages How does it do this? The URL looks totally as I'd expect (google.com/amp/) - I'm on version 84.0

They are boiling frogs: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog

Little changes over time, so you don't see the end game right away. Signed exchanges and further hacking up / hiding the URL will come. This change only hides some of the URL, with a hover action that shows it again.

Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86

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When the final version is implemented in a couple of years you will no longer see any URL, that way it won't be as evident that most sites on the web will be loaded from Google. Google is also attacking this issue from a different perspective with Signed Exchanges [1][2], to fake the URL and ensure their success in becoming the gatekeepers of the internet. If you refuse to become a content provider for Google's visio…

If the webshits didn't bloat the web like this, AMP wouldn't have happened.

"But all hipsters I know have latest macbook pro" has been the standard answer from all of them.

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