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Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action

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Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action

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I’m torn. On one hand, we’ve seen how TikTok has been used by the CCP to extend the reach of its censorship, oppression, and surveillance. On the other hand, I’m not sure if the government should be deciding what software we’re allowed to have.

They decided what encryption software we were allowed to have for the longest time. Up until recently, it was illegal to carry a copy of Schneier's Applied Cryptography on an international flight.

Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action

#72

Wasn't microsoft trying to acquire tiktok? Why not just let that happen rather than try to do something so extreme? I'm not partial to tiktok at all but this is way to much of a big government move than I feel comfortable with. Isn't this a violation of our first amendment rights?

To lower the asking price further, I think. If you can lower it by a few billions by threatening to use an executive order, someone is going to use that power.

Or maybe they just want to ban TikTok and the above conspiracy theory is BS.

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Hopefully this will raise awareness on PWAs. Hopefully using PWAs on mobile will be normalized by the 18-24 year olds. TikTok's PWA seems intentionally gimped (you can't even search) but I will bet it will suddenly start working once it disappears from the Western app stores. Is there anything TikTok does that the Web Platform + WASM cannot do? (besides spying)

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Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action

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post #35

Hopefully this will raise awareness on PWAs. Hopefully using PWAs on mobile will be normalized by the 18-24 year olds. TikTok's PWA seems intentionally gimped (you can't even search) but I will bet it will suddenly start working once it disappears from the Western app stores. Is there anything TikTok does that the Web Platform + WASM cannot do? (besides spying)

I don’t think this will just be the app itself. It will be network traffic based.

I don’t think there is infrastructure in place in the US to prevent access to an IP space.

Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action

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What are the predictions for which U.S. tech company would be banned by China as retaliation? My top pick is - LinkedIn (Most other U.S. social networks are already banned in mainland China anyways, then again LinkedIn is being used extensively by Chinese to do Business with outside world; So I wonder whether China would dare to pull the plug). Or it may just ban Instagram, Snapchat in HongKong as there is no ban for…

It's ridiculous that you even talk about retaliation in a post where you acknowledge that anything that would be a worthy retaliation is already banned!

Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

China is likely considered by many to be a threat to democracy, which is part of the reasoning behind this

Looks more like US democracy is collapsing from the inside than due to external factors.

Also, mostly thanks to foreign actors manipulating technology. Hope we are all seeing the pattern here.

Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action

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I’m torn. On one hand, we’ve seen how TikTok has been used by the CCP to extend the reach of its censorship, oppression, and surveillance. On the other hand, I’m not sure if the government should be deciding what software we’re allowed to have.

One option would be to pass a blanket law that doesn't just impact TikTok but US players too and then ban ALL offending apps.

This is only about hurting China and TikTok and NOT improving safety of US users.

If the US cared it would just change legislation to require rights be protected for social media companies - but that would impact Facebook so that's not going to happen.

Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action

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Under what authority? A dozen paragraphs in the article and not one questioning whether he can actually do this. What would such an executive action look like? An EO to Apple and Google to de-list the app from their stores? Why should they comply? What's he going to do when ByteDance uploads the .apk somewhere? Sick of media treating this man like a zoo exhibit instead of the advanced persistent threat to US democrac…

Your last sentence shows you are not objective.

This is the same thing as Huawei being banned.

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