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Re: Unidentified Federal Law Enforcement Detaining Protestors Without Explanation

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Post by tehwebguy »

blisseyGo wrote: post #25
tehwebguy wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Local law enforcement have been arresting violent and non-violent protestors alike throughout the last few months, I’m not sure where you are getting the idea that they haven’t been.

No. Local law enforcement is being handicapped by mayors and DAs who are letting go of the violent rioters free without any charges.

“Local law enforcement” means something different in every locality but you are still wrong.

On the contrary, thousands of protestors have been actually charged. Meanwhile police officers are still virtually never charged, even in cases of obvious brutality or obvious murder.

As an example, DA Jackie Lacey hasn’t charged a single one of the 330+ cops that killed LA residents during her 8 year tenure (some orgs say it’s over 600, the police disagree)

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Post by [deleted] »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #56
blisseyGo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kidnapping? Really? The officers have POLICE on their chest in big letters. People getting arrested have helmets, bats and window breaking tools on. They aren't "protestors". They are preventing peaceful protestors. Also there's some claims of some of them being undercover agents who have infiltrated Antifa though I am not sure if that can be confirmed.

I can get my friend who owns a fabric printer to print “POLICE” on to every piece of clothing I own. Does that make me identifiably a law enforcement officer?

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Re: Unidentified Federal Law Enforcement Detaining Protestors Without Explanation

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Post by femiagbabiaka »

6nf wrote: post #68
matthberg wrote: post #66

Why was this flagged? There's another thread of this exact same article on the front page at the moment, too. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23866926

Because the headline is nonsense. The cops are not 'unidentified', they are clearly identified as federal law enforcement and they are arresting people who they believe have broken the law. They are not kidnapping random people off the street.

Where is the clear identification?

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Post by femiagbabiaka »

matthberg wrote: post #66

Why was this flagged? There's another thread of this exact same article on the front page at the moment, too. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23866926

Because this is a forum made up of primarily right wing users.

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Post by femiagbabiaka »

fzeroracer wrote: post #43

This is straight up fascistic. Regardless of your opinions of the protesters or if they committed a crime, the feds should never do this, full stop. The feds making a proper arrest should announce who they are, who they're with and why they're making the arrest. The reason being that you have no clue if they actually are the feds or not. They could just be some jackoffs wearing cosplay looking to cause trouble and th…

Spot on. Another sign of the rot of America, not sure if there is any coming back.

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Post by mtgp1000 »

fzeroracer wrote: post #54
mtgp1000 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>So tyranny of the majority is fine Perhaps it is preferable to tyranny by the minority. >authorization" stemming from? Did we explicitly authorize it? Or was it implied by our inaction? Did you authorize the taxes you pay, or where they go? Isn't this the so called social contract? And please, my family fled true tyranny, I assure you nothing the US is doing is quite comperable to the CCP. Westerners don't know tyra…

It's interesting given your posting history that you seem to be more concerned about cancel culture than you are the feds quite literally whisking someone away and violating their rights. I think you're a liar. You're not here to post in good faith. You're just another alt-right troll stirring up shit.

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Post by hobs »

6nf wrote: post #68
matthberg wrote: post #66

Why was this flagged? There's another thread of this exact same article on the front page at the moment, too. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23866926

Because the headline is nonsense. The cops are not 'unidentified', they are clearly identified as federal law enforcement and they are arresting people who they believe have broken the law. They are not kidnapping random people off the street.

The article says multiple times "They had barely made it half a block when an unmarked minivan pulled up in front of them."

Re: Unidentified Federal Law Enforcement Detaining Protestors Without Explanation

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Post by 6nf »

femiagbabiaka wrote: post #73
6nf wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the headline is nonsense. The cops are not 'unidentified', they are clearly identified as federal law enforcement and they are arresting people who they believe have broken the law. They are not kidnapping random people off the street.

Where is the clear identification?

On the uniforms

Re: Unidentified Federal Law Enforcement Detaining Protestors Without Explanation

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Post by 6nf »

op00to wrote: post #70
6nf wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the headline is nonsense. The cops are not 'unidentified', they are clearly identified as federal law enforcement and they are arresting people who they believe have broken the law. They are not kidnapping random people off the street.

I didn’t see the men identify themselves in the video. Did you? Seems pretty clear cut definition of “unidentified” to not say who you are or what organization you’re with.

It's on their uniforms

Re: Unidentified Federal Law Enforcement Detaining Protestors Without Explanation

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Post by dang »

femiagbabiaka wrote: post #74
matthberg wrote: post #66

Why was this flagged? There's another thread of this exact same article on the front page at the moment, too. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23866926

Because this is a forum made up of primarily right wing users.

That's a common misperception. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23807579. There is a lot more where that came from.

People make generalizations about HN based on what they see, but they see what they notice and are far more likely to notice what they dislike and weight it more heavily (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...). Basically that means your image of HN is likely to fill out as an inverse image of your own views. In other words, HN will seem to be full of your enemies. That explains why the other side sees the forum as being made up of their enemies.

Everyone here needs to accept—because it's reality—that the forum is simply divided on divisive topics. It's divided roughly the way that society at large is divided in the many countries whose citizens participate here. No doubt there is some skew (because of factors like education and class), but with the exception of a small number of issues like, say, software patents, it's likely not a major skew. Perceptions of major skew on HN are overwhelmingly rooted in cognitive bias, which explains why they're so contradictory and all over the place.

One reason this is so important is that when someone perceives HN as being dominated by enemies, they are much more likely to go into battle mode. If instead you perceive it as being a more-or-less representative sample of the world, that's still rough—the world is not as we would like it to be—but there's at least a greater possibility of openness. I wrote more about this here, if anyone's interested: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23308098.

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