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Re: Atlas of Surveillance

#71

> Police Department signed an agreement with Amazon's home surveillance equipment company, Ring, in 2019 to gain special access to the company's Neighbors app this is the most scary part.

The most scary part about it is that people willingly buy and install that stuff in their homes.

Re: Atlas of Surveillance

#72

Let us not forget the Netsential leak from #BlueLeaks a few weeks ago. Netsential.com [1] was a Houston-based software dev, hosting, and cloud provider. I lived most of my life in Houston, and they are loosely connected to an old ISP called Texas.net and a more recent data center company called Data Foundry. Something like 630+ websites were hosted by Netsential. All of them DHS fusion centers, multi state intel shar…

one more thing... presumably those other 15 IPs are MSPs similar to Netsentia. maybe Phineas Phisher better target those IPs to breach and leak them too. now that i think of it, maybe every IP address appearing in any Snowden leak should be probed to see if it still leads to interesting goodies.

The NSA was something like 50 miles away from where this data was being hosted. It could have all been hosted in the much better / actually CJIS compliant Azure South at 5150 Rogers Road.

That some random hosting company Netsential, not even a Microsoft Partner was chosen, makes both me and apparently the NSA suspicious.

More than likely DataFoundry is a front company. DataFoundry, which definitely is a real company, was ultimately hosting the Nestential sites. Their founders are former Peace Corps [1] recruits from the 1970's. They look like nice people but definitely not engineering experts. Also everyone at the company has been in place for nearly its entire existence. That is a tell-tale sign of fraud, a tech company should have massive movement within its executive ranks during these last two decade boom years. Also no one I know has done business with them, and even their customer list seems pretty thin when you realized almost all of them have the same one or two Private Equity owners...

[1] - https://www.datafoundry.com/blog/meet-founders-ron-carolyn-y...

Re: Atlas of Surveillance

#75

Ironic that the application won't load in Firefox without disabling Enhanced Tracking Protection because it relies on third party access to storage.

It works for me with Firefox w/enhanced tracking protection. Maybe they fixed it?

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#76

Surveillance just going to get worse in the US Why? There has been a police shortage since the early 2010's where most departments only had a 1/3 of the manpower that was needed. Now with public sentiment against the police, I'm sure the police shortages will increase, eventually forcing the government to rely on more surveillance, AI, and robotics to fill the gap.

Not if they have no funding for those things...

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#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is, that they lied about how they got te evidence. Eg, they plant a hidden camera in your house, see you packing drugs and puting them in your car in your own garage, and driving away. Since they got the info that you had the drugs from illegally set cameras, they can't just stop and search your car, but they can "randomly" stop you for a traffic check, and just "randomly" have a drug sniffing dog present…

It might be worth coming up with an example that doesn’t illustrate an end that may justify precisely the means you describe. In your hypothetical scenario, the system would be working as intended according to many people, because the drug dealer would have otherwise gotten away with illegal activity that those people perceive as harmful.

> It might be worth coming up with an example that doesn’t illustrate an end that may justify precisely the means you describe

Agreed.

And a lot of people will miss an important point: for every dealer caught using 'parallel construction', countless of innocent citizens would have to be surveyed to score a "hit".

Re: Atlas of Surveillance

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the end does not justify the means, due to the fact that it is a violation of their 4th Amendment specifically the right to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects. Illegal searches are illegal no matter the sound basis after the fact. As an order of our society, historically police where not supposed to go looking for crime. They where commissioned to enforce the law. One cannot enforce the law b…

>>In your hypothetical scenario, the system would be working as intended according to many people, because the drug dealer would have otherwise gotten away with illegal activity that those people perceive as harmful. >But the end does not justify the means, due to the fact that it is a violation of their 4th Amendment specifically the right to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects. You're greatly un…

> "if you're being investigated, you probably did something wrong".

Yeah, like being born a Jew in Germany a little over a century ago.

The meaning of "something wrong" can change over time.

Re: Atlas of Surveillance

#80
And this is just state surveillance. There’s a guy who’s building a private surveillance network in San Francisco, with the buy in of the District Attorney and local police departments, and a goal of complete surveillance of city streets.

https://www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.nytimes.c...

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