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Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’
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Most people I know check their work email from their personal phone. Work either doesn't buy them one or they don't want to carry around two phones.
Most people don't need to be on call 24/7 so they could just divorce themselves from off hours work and live like in the ancient times.
My dad worked in construction, and from the late 80's and throughout all of the 90's his company kept offering him a company phone (I think car-phone first).
He never got one, because as he said, if they have your number they'll call you, if they don't then they'll solve their own problem. Looking back on it now, it was prescient advice.
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Which ones and what is your threat model?
The threat model of the US government, or a US company spying on a US citizen is, to the citizen, about as harmful as the Chinese government spying on them. Actually moreso, in the case of the US government.
but amazon doesn't care about its employees in that context, only about protecting their own company standing. (and many people will say here "why shouldn't they?!")
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I'll admit I don't know the specifics beyond what was tweeted. I'm with you though... If an employer wants to manage my device, they can provide the device.
When I worked at Google over 5 years ago, mobile device options for accessing company accounts were a company-provided and company-owned device with a company-paid phone bill, a personal device with company-provided mobile device management (and sometimes cell phone bill expensing if you for example had on-call duties), a personal device with only limited browser-based work account access, and no account access via m…
The third option - accessing only browser sites - is under appreciated. I never needed to install Google's MDM on my mobile devices, I just used mobile web gmail and so forth. It's great, honestly, and the mobile web Calendar has the advantage that it doesn't destroy your battery life like the Calendar app will.
I even saw a guy using the code review site on his mobile, on BART. That was dumb from the standpoint of infosec, usability, and mental health, but shows how much is possible in the browser.
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#75Sorry if I missed something obvious, but if we're at the point where the U.S. government is even contemplating banning TikTok, how come it's on Google and Apple stores at this point? They seem to be at least somewhat vigilant about spyware etc.
From what I read, I think the issue is people keep claiming it does all this various "spyware" stuff, when it sounds like it's doing nothing that any other app could do, given the (what appear to be) lax permissions of android/ios. If people are so worried about what tiktok can be gathering outside of the app, that is a problem for apple & google. For this, I think it's 100% overblown what people think tiktok is doin…
China is just US public enemy #1 because it's a geopolitical and economic threat. The US doesn't want to export data to them for free. It's funny America sometimes gives China flak for banning Google/FB/etc because they wanted to control their data (on top of national security stuff but I think the data is just important). And now the US is doing the same.
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#76I'm more surprised Amazon (or any company, really) employees using an employer-managed device would have TikTok on them to start with, to be honest. As the follow-up tweet says: "Completely independent of the specifics in this instance: get a second device before installing an employer's config profile on your personal device"
Does Amazon provide company phones or just install an MDM profile on your personal phone? I have TikTok installed on my phone, and if my employer said I had to remove it to access my work email, I'd ask them to buy me a work phone. It seems a bit ridiculous that they'd want to control what apps you download on your personal device without providing an alternative.
No, they are controlling the environment under which their company emails can be accessed.
If you, as an employee, don't want to remove TikTok I believe you will have that right, it's just that you won't be able to access company emails from that device.
Now, whether or not that leads to a company phone or you having to look for another job, depends on the individual and how important that individual is to the company.
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#77I'm more surprised Amazon (or any company, really) employees using an employer-managed device would have TikTok on them to start with, to be honest. As the follow-up tweet says: "Completely independent of the specifics in this instance: get a second device before installing an employer's config profile on your personal device"
Does Amazon provide company phones or just install an MDM profile on your personal phone? I have TikTok installed on my phone, and if my employer said I had to remove it to access my work email, I'd ask them to buy me a work phone. It seems a bit ridiculous that they'd want to control what apps you download on your personal device without providing an alternative.
There's also no requirement to have your business email on your phone, at least in my organization in Amazon. I'm happy to leave it off and not worry about any issues like this.
Of course I do have other apps directly related to work... I guess those aren't an issue if I had TikTok?
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Does Amazon provide company phones or just install an MDM profile on your personal phone? I have TikTok installed on my phone, and if my employer said I had to remove it to access my work email, I'd ask them to buy me a work phone. It seems a bit ridiculous that they'd want to control what apps you download on your personal device without providing an alternative.
I'll admit I don't know the specifics beyond what was tweeted. I'm with you though... If an employer wants to manage my device, they can provide the device.
With all the security implications there could be, I would just refuse to use or own a smartphone in any capacity if it's related to work, unless there was no camera, mic, or GPS sensor (or they could provide hardware switches).
Seriously, they could be logging your exact location, remotely activating the camera or doing any number of disgusting things.
Requiring the use of a spy should not be a factor in an employment setting, of course we're seeing this is the case and it is very offputting.
Thankfully not something I need to worry about though.
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#79What's the security/privacy vulnerability that would allow TikTok access to sensitive info from email?
Clipboard access.
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#80Does anyone else feel we're suddenly supposed to be anti-China? Is it because of Hong Kong? (Honest question, I have no strong opinion .) Because it feels like after Russia and Muslims now China is the new enemy. Kind of stupid imho. Anyway, the high road would probably be not to ban any apps but to make the operating systems safer..
You have incorrectly framed the issue. The fact is that China has been anti-US and anti-democracy for the past few decades and the world is finally coming to terms with that and defending themselves. It is both laughable and sad that so many Americans like yourself are so ill-informed and quick to jump on the "US bad" train.