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The comparison to rape is in VERY poor taste and you certainly didn't have to copy it here.
sheesh lighten-up a little. I find the comparison spot on. Not that I'm saying that what Microsoft did can literary be compared to rape and the horrors it puts a victim trough. I just thought it's a nice metaphor sigh
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Re: From Redmond with Love - IE team sends cake for FF4
#72I wish more companies would do something like this. Honestly, IE9 and all the surrounding tech media is really leaving an awesome impression on me. Gestures like this prove that the IE team wants to take part in a modern internet world much more than any standard compliance chart ever could. On a side note, I found Office 2010/2011, IE9 and Windows 7 a joy to use. And this is in stark contrast to Office 2003/2008, IE…
Nothing will ever bring back hours of IE6 workaround time, or change my mind about using a Windows computer. Cumulatively, developers and clients paid millions in billable hours for their neglect in monopoly. They couldn't warm up to me even if they swapped their board of directors with Sesame Street characters.
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sheesh lighten-up a little. I find the comparison spot on. Not that I'm saying that what Microsoft did can literary be compared to rape and the horrors it puts a victim trough. I just thought it's a nice metaphor sigh
It's not a metaphor, it's a simile.
Re: From Redmond with Love - IE team sends cake for FF4
#74This is a bit of a naiive question, But what is the business rational behind Microsoft putting so much time and effort into IE? Where is the payback? Is it just so more people have Bing as their default search? Is it just so that Windows ships with a working modern browser as the user expects? If anyone could clear it up for me, Much appreciated =)
You could ask the same of Google and Chrome. An excellent treatise on the topic is discussed in Breaking Windows: How Bill Gates Fumbled the Future of Microsoft , by David Bank. It describes a lot of the tensions that existed inside Microsoft as they tried to figure out how to continue selling Windows as a platform, while still seeing the threat of the web as a platform on the horizon. IE was part of that threat resp…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation#Notable_eve...
Re: From Redmond with Love - IE team sends cake for FF4
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I could care less, but companies have done it several times. Netscape skipped version 5 (a doomed project). Microsoft ditched version numbers for years (95, 98, 2000), and then just names -- due to how version number increments on an existing product appear to end users. To technically savvy it doesnt really matter "is it 5.0 or 4.5?" But the version number or name is about trying to position the product as a "new on…
> I could care less, ... I don't want to be "that guy" and I'm not trying to be a grammar Nazi. I know this is now an idiom in the USA, and therefore it doesn't have to make sense. However ... I've now heard it said, in four different countries, that this phrase makes the speaker sound like an idiot. I know it's now just "the norm" in the USA, but I wanted to let people here know that saying this makes a bad impressi…
The phrase you quote is not "now just" the norm. It has always been ever since I can remember living in North America. It's nobody's fault the British-speaking world has just discovered it. This reminds me a little of when the Europeans first discovered "America."
This is why Jorge Luis Borges once said, "Todas las palabras fueron alguna vez un neologismo" (All words were once a neologism).
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> I could care less, ... I don't want to be "that guy" and I'm not trying to be a grammar Nazi. I know this is now an idiom in the USA, and therefore it doesn't have to make sense. However ... I've now heard it said, in four different countries, that this phrase makes the speaker sound like an idiot. I know it's now just "the norm" in the USA, but I wanted to let people here know that saying this makes a bad impressi…
Let me play devil's advocate (which might actually play in your favor, seeing as you've used that neologism). How do you think new words and phrases make it into the dictionary? It's by a proportionate amount of people using it for a specific meaning. Meaning is an abstract concept. Contrary to popular belief, language is not always logical or literal. It's an ever-changing organism: elastic and metamorphic. The phra…
It's common in the USA. People I've spoken to from other countries think it makes those who use it seem ignorant. I'm providing data, not making a judgement. I know that many idioms don't make sense when dissected.
The parts of the world I have regular dealings with - excluding the USA - all say "I couldn't care less," and that actually does make sense. The people I've spoken with about this have expressed bewilderment that the alternate version should be used. They say that it doesn't make sense, and it's open to misunderstanding.
When I speak with customers I don't use the same short-hand or code phrases that I use with my colleagues. Likewise students when applying for jobs or other positions use more formal language, because to do otherwise makes them look uneducated and ignorant. I'm just saying that I've seen the same attitude towards people who use this particular phrase.
Personally, I don't care. In fact, it would be hard for me to care less. I'm just offering a datum that some might find useful.
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It's not a metaphor, it's a simile.
A simile is a metaphor.
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A simile is a metaphor.
No, it's a figure of speech. A metaphor is also a figure of speech, but similes are not a subtype of metaphors (I went to look it up both before my last statement and before this one, because I refuse to believe my own memory. You might want to do the same).
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I could care less, but companies have done it several times. Netscape skipped version 5 (a doomed project). Microsoft ditched version numbers for years (95, 98, 2000), and then just names -- due to how version number increments on an existing product appear to end users. To technically savvy it doesnt really matter "is it 5.0 or 4.5?" But the version number or name is about trying to position the product as a "new on…
> I could care less, ... I don't want to be "that guy" and I'm not trying to be a grammar Nazi. I know this is now an idiom in the USA, and therefore it doesn't have to make sense. However ... I've now heard it said, in four different countries, that this phrase makes the speaker sound like an idiot. I know it's now just "the norm" in the USA, but I wanted to let people here know that saying this makes a bad impressi…
Re: From Redmond with Love - IE team sends cake for FF4
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Nothing will ever bring back hours of IE6 workaround time, or change my mind about using a Windows computer. Cumulatively, developers and clients paid millions in billable hours for their neglect in monopoly. They couldn't warm up to me even if they swapped their board of directors with Sesame Street characters.
And all the man-years you saved users by using XMLHttpRequest? Otherwise known as AJAX? Or have you conveniently forgotten which browser that was introduced in? One day you should download the version of Netscape that was around when IE6 came out.
And then they sat on it for 4 years, refusing to fully implement the CSS 2.1 spec, refusing to fix ridiculous positioning bugs, and even refusing to fix security flaws that they mandated non-critical, although several of them used together often lead to arbitrary code execution on the client.
Like it is with User Experience in general, they ruined all the positive cred they had with IE6, causing standards-aware web devs to develop for the lowest-common denominator or invest their own time on every project for Microsoft's technical debt.
It's not fair that IE6 quirking was a required skill and a to-do for web developers, only because Microsoft had a browser share monopoly. Was it to slow down the evolution towards applications/operating system in the cloud? Mere negligence? I don't care anymore, they broke my heart.