Any way we could get this on a tshirt? I'd buy one.
http://zazzle.com
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Who does that? I don't know anyone that actually does XP that does that. There's no such thing as XP certification, and I have never seen an XP class offered. There's not even an XP conference anymore.
> There's not even an XP conference anymore. I wonder why?
The same reason you don't have Programming, Motherfucker conference, I'd guess?
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#74I enjoy when Zed is appropriately flippant (irony intended). While, I don't have experience working for any teams that consider "XP, Scrum, Kanban, Waterfall," etc, to be gospel, I can see that being more than "fucking" annoying.
That being said, I can see some people who haven't tried these methodologies as immediately devaluing them. Don't do that. As long as you don't view the methodologies as a silver bullet they can teach you a thing or two. Critically playing with something helps you think about why it works and where it doesn't.
(I'm not saying Zed is saying that they are not worth learning; in fact, I don't want to put any words in his mouth, especially because he's here and will probably weigh in, even though he's known for being so reserved and unopinionated.)
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#75"The path of the righteous programmer is beset on all sides by the inequities of the clueless and the tyranny of evil project managers. Blessed is he, who in the name of achievement and solid technology, shepherds the users through the valley of ineptitude, for he is truly his customer's keeper and the finder of lost solutions. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would at…
But...Zed's dead.
Can't be a religion without a good ol'fashioned resurrection.
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I'm not sure how this is content free. It's offering up a gateway to a discussion/criticism of a lot of crufty-methodologies. Opinionated and vulgar maybe, but it is still about software, hacking, and maybe even business.
If it wasn't plain as day that Zed was serious about this, (a) I wouldn't be voted as high as it was, and (b) I wouldn't have commented on it. I just wish he hadn't built a caricature.
Yeah, I'm totally serious about it with that picture of Samuel L. Jackson right at the top. Totally dead serious. Going to start the conference tomorrow.
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This part: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:XP-feedback.gif
It looks like there's a lot of programming going on there. The lack of continuous deployment has been an admission of omission by Kent Beck, but other than that, is it the fact that there is a meeting once a day and once a week? Planning of any kind gets in the way of programming?
I didn't say that at all. Once I worked with a guy who would work out the entire application on paper before even touching a computer. Think Fortran, C, and hardcore information theory. If he owned a laptop I never saw it.
His company has been profitable for years and years and years. So, sure, planning can work out very well and I do a lot of it too.
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#78The fact that I agree with all of this just makes me sadder at how it was presented. Thanks for building a handy straw man for the methodology developers to attack. I flagged this --- it's virtually content free --- but that's a futile gesture given how susceptible HN is to this particular form of social engineering.
Love the irony: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2303854
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#79Does Programming, Motherfucker really scale though? Every process listed is about teams of people Programming Together, Motherfucker. I've seen two people engaged in Programming, Motherfucker without Talking to Eachother, Motherfucker and the results were Disastrous, Motherfucker.
Took a while to write a manifesto, after suggesting this on September 7 2010:
I'm going to start a post-Agile programming methodology called, "Programming, Motherfucker." It'll be awesome.
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I'm not sure how this is content free. It's offering up a gateway to a discussion/criticism of a lot of crufty-methodologies. Opinionated and vulgar maybe, but it is still about software, hacking, and maybe even business.
If it wasn't plain as day that Zed was serious about this, (a) I wouldn't be voted as high as it was, and (b) I wouldn't have commented on it. I just wish he hadn't built a caricature.
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