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Re: I bought netflix.soy

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Post by vinay427 » Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:01 PM UTC

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #5

gTLDs are nothing but a money play by ICANN and registrars and really make the internet a (slightly) more confusing and dangerous place. Within epsilon, all the money spent by companies on gTLDs is dead weight with no payoff in increased usability but only to prevent some naive user from being tricked. The advice I give my non-techie friends is avoid going to any business website that is not a “.com”

Just in the US, there's also org, gov, and edu, not to mention the countless trustworthy ccTLDs in other countries.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

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Post by Marsymars » Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:07 PM UTC

interestica wrote: post #25

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #5

gTLDs are nothing but a money play by ICANN and registrars and really make the internet a (slightly) more confusing and dangerous place. Within epsilon, all the money spent by companies on gTLDs is dead weight with no payoff in increased usability but only to prevent some naive user from being tricked. The advice I give my non-techie friends is avoid going to any business website that is not a “.com”

> The advice I give my non-techie friends is avoid going to any business website that is not a “.com” You can't actually mean that? Country TLD? (Eg .CA) I'm actually pretty impressed by how the .CA registry (CIRA) has branded itself in Canada. There's even a bit more legitimacy for sites because it's clear they're operating in Canada (or have at least made an effort for Canadian representation).

Yeah, my default behaviour for any international company is to navigate to companyname.ca. Even if they don't use TLDs for their regional websites, it typically redirects to their Canadian site. (e.g. apple.ca redirects to apple.com/ca, microsoft.ca redirects to microsoft.com/en-ca, ikea.ca redirects to ikea.com/ca/en, etc.)

Re: I bought netflix.soy

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Post by nicoburns » Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:07 PM UTC

apple.beer is actually a pretty good domain name for a cider company. Not technically accurate of course, but pretty good from a marketing perspective.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

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Post by toast0 » Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:07 PM UTC

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #52

saagarjha wrote: post #3

Interestingly, I recently saw a couple a couple of google.* domains available on Google Domains, including some reasonable-sounding ones: IIRC, google.tech (edit: google.page), google.business, and google.camp. Tried to purchase them but they instantly became unavailable the moment I tried to do so. The cynic in me thinks that Google has a special check for those and renews it themselves if someone tries… More genera…

Companies like Mark Monitor will buy all of the .tld's for you-- and continually grab new ones (as the set of TLDs is constantly growing). At Netflix's size, I would assume they would've paid for such a service.

It's worth noting that MarkMonitor ownership has changed in recent years.

Regardless, they certainly can register all the names for you, if that's what you ask them to do, but at some point, there's an awful lot of names, and it feels extortiony to pay for them all. I was working for a MarkMonitor client when the 'landrush' for all these new tlds was happening, and we'd get frequent emails about which tlds were going live soon, so we could decide if we wanted foo.bike or foo.sexy or foo.personals, or whatever. And then, if we wanted to pay rediculous prices to get it early, or wait and see if we could get it at normal price (+ hefty MarkMonitor markup). We would almost certainly win a UDRP, but that's expensive too.

Then we got bought, and the new corporate overlords liked throwing money away on dumb domains, so foo.bike got registered by their team (and they had an actual domain team, so I got to shed that hat).

Re: I bought netflix.soy

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Post by bawolff » Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:08 PM UTC

gruez wrote: post #17

smitop wrote: post #9

If these companies notice, they can file a UDRP ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Domain-Name_Dispute-Re... ) request, on the basis that the domains infringe their trademarks, and were registered and used in "bad faith".

>and were registered and used in "bad faith". How were they registered in bad faith? He's not extorting money from netfilx, nor is he trying to deceive people into thinking he's neflix.

He admitted he only registered it because netflix didn't, and he had no other non netflix related website in mind to host there. I think that's borderline bad faith. Its not exactly good faith. If he had never heard of netflix he never would have registered it.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

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Post by popotamonga » Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:08 PM UTC

stepanhruda wrote: post #36

> large sum of money No, they will file a dispute and get them at registration cost, because they own the trademark.

Not always, i had for a few years the domain name of a top 10 website we all know, with a TLD for my country (.pt). I just kept it and did nothing with it and one day got a €30k offer.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

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Post by TimTheTinker » Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:12 PM UTC

> Did you know it costs a minimum of $185,000 to create your own domain name ending?

If I were a blackhat with money, I'd register the ".con" TLD.

... Sure hoping a whitehat gets it first.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

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Post by bambax » Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:15 PM UTC

> Truthully, I think its pretty bad that I was able to do this.

It is not. The explosion of TLDs is bad. It's simply a racket. But, Google supported it. So if they happen to suffer some of the consequences... so be it.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

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Post by moonchild » Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:15 PM UTC

CydeWeys wrote: post #68

tylerhou wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Infrastructure changes aren't even needed; Google already owns the .google TLD. All they would need to do is attach an A record to the root.

ICANN doesn't allow A records on the DNS root on gTLDs. If they did, we already would've.

http://cm./ used to resolve

Re: I bought netflix.soy

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Post by Volundr » Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:15 PM UTC

CydeWeys wrote: post #65

RandallBrown wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could anything worse than losing out on the registration fees ever actually happen?

Yes. You might have to deal with the hassle and expense of being sued. There's all downside and no upside to playing this particular stupid game.

I mean technically, maybe, but it's extremely unlikely that they'd sue without sending a C&D first. And given the lack of damage even if they did it'd likely get dismissed quickly with him just giving up the domain.

But... INAL and this is not legal advice.