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Your data being inaccessible without a private key or password is the entire point.
Exactly. I cannot understand how this can’t be the user’s choice.
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Yes. Here are some excerpts from the (very minimally descriptive) page: > Write better. Think more clearly. Get organized. Totally useless in terms of explaining what the product is. >A simple, beautiful writing experience, with 30+ types of content to add. Great, so I can... write things in it? What are these 30 types of content? It doesn't even give examples. > Turn your tribal knowledge into easy-to-find answers.…
I just read it again and it's true there's a lot of marketing speak, but it seems you've been blinded by it and ignored all of the rest. It's great to have these questions and insightful answers. The thing is you've said your friend is nuts about it, but apparently haven't bothered to ask them the same questions you're asking here. Not only that, you do seem to be fairly interested in knowing what it's about, but you…
>so maybe you could have at least followed the hacker spirit and... I don't know, scanned for the links on the top of the page... and formed a basic opinion?
or I could ask about it on a forum that is dedicated to discussing topics exactly like this? As you can see, other commenters have given some great insight that is infinitely more helpful than "just go read the website", and is definitely more insightful than the website itself could ever be. I thank them greatly for their insight.
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Tracking scripts / cookies are only loaded if you click "Yes", otherwise they are not loaded at all.
But if you don't tap "yes" there is no way to dismiss it. Not a fan of this behaviour, and won't be looking any further.
This is top-tier HN material right here folks.
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#74There are major disadvantages to using something like Notion for personal work - including non discoverability of work or thoughts. Most people are better of with pen and paper.
I've gone into further depth here: https://usedone.today/blog/posts/davinci/
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#75I love using Notion, but I think the general discussion about it does not talk enough about how it's flexibility is also a problem many times. 1. Flexibility of blocks is a cognitive overhead for most folks in my team. They would rather prefer more constrained and opinionated approaches like Trello 2. Notion is currently a jack of all trades and master of none. We have tried to use it as a wiki, project tracker, issu…
I’ve had a similar experience with Notion. “Jack of all trades and master of none” resonates strongly with me.
This lead me to my latest startup https://froosthq.com/ which is Notion inspired and aimed solely at software teams.
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#76I think Notion might actually work best in personal/small environments, and this seems like a smart move to encourage more of that kind of use. My exposure to it is at a large company, where it really does not work well.
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#77When are we going to get dependency graphs?
I want a ticket to be able to 'depend' on another ticket in a visually satisfying way like a dependency graph view.
Dependencies are such a huge part of ticketing systems but they don't seem to be treated with first class attention.
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There is no easy way to implement client side encryption. You will have a private key or long password the you will keep safe. You lose that all your data in gone. Plus it's difficult to securely move that password to a new platform
Your data being inaccessible without a private key or password is the entire point.
People rightfully get skittish when there's no "forgot password" mechanism to get their account and data back.
I certainly agree that that's the point, but such a system needs some potential usability affordances. For instance, a key stored in the browser rather than a password the user has to remember, and ideally a key synced between multiple devices controlled by the user so that the loss or failure of one device does not mean loss of the account.
For example, imagine having the browser generate an asymmetric key for the user, and making sure browsers store such keys (encrypted) in Firefox Sync or equivalent, so that the keys are safe even if the user moves to a new device or an existing device fails or gets lost.
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#79I love using Notion, but I think the general discussion about it does not talk enough about how it's flexibility is also a problem many times. 1. Flexibility of blocks is a cognitive overhead for most folks in my team. They would rather prefer more constrained and opinionated approaches like Trello 2. Notion is currently a jack of all trades and master of none. We have tried to use it as a wiki, project tracker, issu…
Yup, Notion and OneNote occupy similar scenarios for me. It's where I can gather my compiled thoughts and notes, but I've had trouble implementing any team processes on it due to it not being constrained enough in its UI.
I don't think there's any easy answer here. I respect the Notion team a lot for making a tool that is so flexible, but it's also a curse in some key scenarios.
Re: Notion for everyone
#80I love using Notion, but I think the general discussion about it does not talk enough about how it's flexibility is also a problem many times. 1. Flexibility of blocks is a cognitive overhead for most folks in my team. They would rather prefer more constrained and opinionated approaches like Trello 2. Notion is currently a jack of all trades and master of none. We have tried to use it as a wiki, project tracker, issu…
I miss Trello: add task, edit, save.
GitHub more or less offers this in the Projects board feature:
https://help.github.com/en/github/managing-your-work-on-gith...