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The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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So I was recently looking at those as options for a very low budget video editing PC for someone, and yes, AMD destroys intel in raw CPU performance for the same price, however in those low-budget applications Intel has an upper hand - integrated GPU. With AMD you either have to go with the super crappy 3400G, which is a really poor CPU(but also very cheap), or for literally anything else + a dedicated GPU(which incr…

I would presume that, if you have a low-budget application with high scale (e.g. you're a company designing a NAS, or other "Turing-complete but still embedded" system), then you'd ignore both Intel and AMD and look at ARM-based SoC solutions, no? You can get significantly better integrated graphics, for cheaper, on e.g. Nvidia's Tegra platform. Thus why Nintendo—ROI penny-pinchers to a fault—chose it.

Definitely. If you're going for something integrated, Intel/AMD (and maybe x86 in general) are out of the question.

For a PC, though, using ARM can be tough if you're trying to use Windows. I'm not sure how many Windows programs have ARM binaries.

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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> No, I think the nearest thing is probably the $140 Core i3-9100. Which has approximately equivalent CPU performance and a slower iGPU than a 3200G which costs $40 less. > https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2333?vs=2590 The 2400G is Zen1. The APUs use different numbering. The 2500X is Zen+: https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2259?vs=2590 Zen2 is something like 15% faster give or take. Zen+ was never really…

If by "15% ±" you meant 30-50% then we agree. I don't see any individual results (other than GPU-limited games) where the Zen2 is not at least 15% faster, and on most of them it's at least 20% faster, on specific relevant workloads like 7-Zip compression the newer part is almost twice as fast, while drawing 2/3rds the power.

It's ~6% faster for GIMP, Also, the 3100 and 2500X are both 65W.

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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If by "15% ±" you meant 30-50% then we agree. I don't see any individual results (other than GPU-limited games) where the Zen2 is not at least 15% faster, and on most of them it's at least 20% faster, on specific relevant workloads like 7-Zip compression the newer part is almost twice as fast, while drawing 2/3rds the power.

It's ~6% faster for GIMP, Also, the 3100 and 2500X are both 65W.

You're right, I looked at the wrong link.

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This is really annoying when building a NAS too. Great value CPUs with ECC support make the configurations great and then you need to spend 50-100€ to just get boot graphics even though the machine will be headless 99% of the time. Buying something second hand or from aliexpress defeats the purpose of trying to build something reliable. The market for low-end discrete GPUs has all but vanished thanks to Intel integra…

A comment above refers to the GT 710 as a cheap option new.

That's the 50 in 50-100€. At this level that's around one step up in CPU within the AMD range that you're wasting on an old GPU just to get the thing to boot.

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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For modern video editors (aka "not Adobe") the CPU barely matters at all. I suspect "content creation needs strong CPU" is held up largely by Adobe, while more modern systems ditched CPUs for heavy lifting a long time ago or never used CPU for these purposes in the first place.

What video editors are you talking about specifically?

DaVinci Resolve would be one such editor

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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I wanted to update my system with the Ryzen 5 1600 AF, given its value at $85 - but it's no longer in stock anywhere at that price, so the 3300X is looking appealing.

Do you find upgrading low end CPUs to be less expensive overall than going straight to mid range CPUs and skipping the upgrade cycle?

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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Yes, the article expresses some surprise that the new Ryzen 3 chips are based on binned Ryzen 5/7 3000's, rather than on the new and exciting Ryzen Mobile 4000's which do have integrated graphics and are benchmarking very well. Hopefully some Ryzen Mobile based desktop chips are coming soon too.

Hopefully some inventive friends from Aliexpress retrofit these mobile cpus for AM4 socket, like they did with mobile i7s.

If you wait a little longer, AMD is expected to release these as Desktop APUs; I don't think I've seen a comitted release window yet, though. My guess is sometime q3, but I would love for it to be sooner.

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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So I was recently looking at those as options for a very low budget video editing PC for someone, and yes, AMD destroys intel in raw CPU performance for the same price, however in those low-budget applications Intel has an upper hand - integrated GPU. With AMD you either have to go with the super crappy 3400G, which is a really poor CPU(but also very cheap), or for literally anything else + a dedicated GPU(which incr…

Zen2 desktop cpus with integrated gpus are the next thing AMD will be releasing.

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What video editors are you talking about specifically?

DaVinci Resolve would be one such editor

It still benefits from a faster CPU, at least when paired with a top-end GPU: https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems...

Re: The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

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I like Anandtech. They have some really great deep dive articles on CPUs and system architecture. Which is why this type of 'test' is just weird. None of the CPUs they compare seem to be in the same price bracket. Many aren't even from the same generation. 7700K? 8086K? 4900HS? Yes, sometimes you have to work with what you have, but c'mon - at least one somewhat comparable CPU would've been nice for reference (i3 810…

its usually faster than the i5 9400F
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