Got to love DO. Simple pricing, nothing hidden, not the most feature rich ecosystem, but I get no billing surprises. Source: customer for 3 years.
I'm a DO client since the beginning. Can anyone tell me how they compare to linode?
DigitalOcean VPC
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Re: DigitalOcean VPC
#72I'm glad they plugged their outbound network transfer fees compared to the others[1]. I was shocked and horrified when my AWS bill (which I pay myself) quadrupled due to outgoing network transfer fees. It's truly outrageous what they charge. I use Digital Ocean a lot now simply to avoid nasty surprises like that. I hope AWS and Google change that. [1] https://blog.digitalocean.com/its-all-about-the-bandwidth-wh...
Guess who‘s favorite evil corp cloud is a magnitude cheaper than AWS on transfer pricing? Oracle, which is why Zoom just signed a deal. https://www.lastweekinaws.com/blog/why-zoom-chose-oracle-clo...
They offer worse services, so they had to offer lower prices, otherwise it wouldn't make any sense.
Re: DigitalOcean VPC
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you're using a private network v4 address exhaustion doesn't matter much and the simplicity of only 4 octets helps with IP memorability and simplicity. I would still prefer a v6 option though, as keeping private networks on v4 might be contributing to the slow adoption of v6.
Life sure would be easier if "cloud native" meant IPv6-only (except the load balancer) with non-overlapping unique addresses everywhere. 10/8 doesn't go far if you give each VM a /24 and each k8s cluster a /16.
What network are you running where you're giving each virtual machine a /24? That's insane.
10/8 should go very far if you do it correctly, hence why it's in use in almost all internal networks.
Re: DigitalOcean VPC
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you’re okay with servers located in Germany, Hetzner is a provider I can vouch for and they offer additional egress at 1EUR/TB. 20TB included, too. (Billing has been rather painful, though.)
Can you elaborate why billing is a pain point ? thanks.
Could not set up auto-charging, had to visit the billing portal once a month and manually initiate a Paypal or credit card transaction. Probably okay if you’re a company, not so convenient for an individual with a side project (at least I prefer set and forget).
That was two years ago though, maybe it has improved.
Re: DigitalOcean VPC
#75Cloud Firewall, VPC, glad to see useful features added.
Personal experience with DO: I've been a happy DO customer for the past [7 years](1). Linux VM [uptime](2) record has been amazing for personal use case.
This week I migrate the droplet hosting my personal website (5/m) from DigitalOcean to Amazon Lightsail (3.5/m plan) this week. Trigger being Ubuntu LTS upgrade to 20.04 again failed to boot on first few attempts again (wasted quite sometime chroot trying to fix to no avail without access to the hypervisor - IaaS...), mainly because of the way DO's flavour of KVM (hypervisor) works (I am not the only one), my other VPS (e.g. 123Systems - KVM) worked well and never had the same problem, let alone Xen powered VMs (EC2, self-hosted XenServer, etc. - I know hypervisor well because I've worked for XenSource/Citrix on XenServer for several years).
Customer (technical) support quality has dropped over the last few years, I can tell the difference by comparing the last 2 support tickets, I don't want to guess the root cause, sigh...
Finally I have had enough (4th time down with upgrade), it's time to move on to something better without paying more, migration is made easy due to the way workloads are deployed (most containerized, thanks to Docker/Docker Compose). With Lightsail, in addition to the AWS name/brand, has the advantage to move the Lightsail VMs into AWS EC2 instances so as to leverage full-fledged AWS infra (e.g. VPC, etc.) seamlessly.
Over the years, low end VPS competition has becoming much tougher (DO, Linode, Vultr, Amazon Lightsail late to the game but powerful strike, etc.) DO has lots its key competencies for bang for the buck, without offering 2.5~3.5/m plan on par with competitors.
Last but not least, I'll definitely consider DO as an option when Cloud Infrastructure is need, still ;-)
BTW: On Oracle, my Oracle Cloud free tier trial ended miserably, 2 weeks after provisioning the VMs, Cockpit (I run it on my home NAS - managing/monitoring a small group of cloud VPS using the web UI) reported connection failed, only to find that my account has been terminated without any warning or notification along with my 2 free VMs based in Phoenix, lucky that I didn't actually put any workload on it (left them running only - feeling something's gonna happen...), contacted support and was told account deleted, no reason, redirected me to customer support (my oracle support, I couldn't figure out how that works, so give up...). I still don't understand how Oracle Cloud login works...
Re: DigitalOcean VPC
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
$0.01/GB is fantastic, but I have a bandwidth intensive ML media application and don't know how to monetize or sell it quickly enough to pay for my bandwidth costs. Is there a cloud or dedicated server farm with even cheaper outbound bandwidth? Edit: as much as I hate Oracle, their first 10TB is free, and each GB after that is $0.0085/GB. Better...
I'm transferring out ~5TB/day and pay no charges for it. I'm using scaleway ( https://www.scaleway.com/en/pricing/ )
Would you mind sharing how much you’re spending at Scaleway each month (a ballpark would be enough)? I’m just generally wary of claims of unmetered resources at oversubscribed cloud providers — I mean if I’m paying $5/mo and transferring 150TB they probably have every incentive to cut me off. A clearly defined quota with moderate overage fees actually gives me peace of mind.
Re: DigitalOcean VPC
#77I'm glad they plugged their outbound network transfer fees compared to the others[1]. I was shocked and horrified when my AWS bill (which I pay myself) quadrupled due to outgoing network transfer fees. It's truly outrageous what they charge. I use Digital Ocean a lot now simply to avoid nasty surprises like that. I hope AWS and Google change that. [1] https://blog.digitalocean.com/its-all-about-the-bandwidth-wh...
I cannot seem to find AWS bandwidth pricing. Only thing I found was some blogpost from 2011. How do I check this out?
Re: DigitalOcean VPC
#78I'm glad they plugged their outbound network transfer fees compared to the others[1]. I was shocked and horrified when my AWS bill (which I pay myself) quadrupled due to outgoing network transfer fees. It's truly outrageous what they charge. I use Digital Ocean a lot now simply to avoid nasty surprises like that. I hope AWS and Google change that. [1] https://blog.digitalocean.com/its-all-about-the-bandwidth-wh...
I cannot seem to find AWS bandwidth pricing. Only thing I found was some blogpost from 2011. How do I check this out?
Ok, it seems to show up at calculator.aws when you go to "advanced" section
Re: DigitalOcean VPC
#79Got to love DO. Simple pricing, nothing hidden, not the most feature rich ecosystem, but I get no billing surprises. Source: customer for 3 years.
Same here, happy customer for 4 years. Currently we have ~60 VMs of different sizes (down from ~100 before COVID lockdown).
My main wish at this point is cross data center load balancers.
Re: DigitalOcean VPC
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
$0.01/GB is fantastic, but I have a bandwidth intensive ML media application and don't know how to monetize or sell it quickly enough to pay for my bandwidth costs. Is there a cloud or dedicated server farm with even cheaper outbound bandwidth? Edit: as much as I hate Oracle, their first 10TB is free, and each GB after that is $0.0085/GB. Better...
I'm transferring out ~5TB/day and pay no charges for it. I'm using scaleway ( https://www.scaleway.com/en/pricing/ )
External outgoing traffic
First step up to 75 GB: 0 € per GB
From 75GB to 499TB: 0.01 € per GB/month