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Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by bdcravens »

beamatronic wrote: post #55
Someone1234 wrote: post #8

The cheapest iPhone is also as expensive as some mid-range Android devices and completely inaccessible to a large chunk of the world's population. When a device that most will spend $449 on is "cheap" you have to admire Apple's price anchoring[0], they release a $1249 flagship and suddenly what the largest iPhone 5S flagshp cost ($442.09 inflation adjusted to 2020) at launch is considered "cheap." It is undeniably a…

If you are using all the capabilities of your smartphone, it should be adding way more value to your life, than it costs. That's what makes smartphones indispensible - a huge ROI. Edit: Wanted to share a tip. If you are planning to buy an iPhone anyway, be sure to get Apple Card. You'll get a 3% discount on your purchase, and they will let you pay 24 equal monthly payments with no interest.

Aside from the 3% discount, aren't most carrier plans no-interest payment plans?

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by LeoTinnitus »

Someone1234 wrote: post #29
LeoTinnitus wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still can't get over the fact that apple is still putting in less than 2000hz batteries. Sure the life is great the first year, but as they make updates and increase the processor usage, suddenly that battery can barely last a day. I know people hate phablets, but if that gets me a 2 day battery life, so be it.

If I recall correctly the iPhone 8 actually lost battery capacity because they needed space for the wireless charging system. So if they wanted to use the same case design (to save money on re-tooling/re-use existing assembly lines) and keep wireless charging it might not be avoidable. We'll likely know more if IFixIt or similar do a tear-down. I do agree though that even with potential battery savings from the newer…

It's what happened to the original SE. I lose like 20% battery on my original SE from 2 years use on iOS 13 just from web browsing for 30 minutes.

Apple has been making some just flat out awful design decisions in terms of their hardware for the past, what feels like a decade at this point but it's much shorter than that. While form can be greater than functionality, why would I ever want a phone that blatantly has printed on it "Planned Obsolescence?" The things I care about on an iphone are not "the best processor" out there. I want efficient ram usage and long battery life. Ram was never an issue with iOS so they just needed a great battery. What did they give us? A better processor...that's going to drain the battery in a year with the next iOS update because they keep pushing software updates that demand more of the system. I won't be shocked if malware get's into iphones any time soon showing how lazy they've been with MacOS in the last few years.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by philosopher1234 »

tssva wrote: post #20
google234123 wrote: post #15

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The great software and drivers (IOS) is why Iphones are so smooth. Not the hardware.

I'm confused by your comment. Which is it? Do they run great software or iOS?

What’s wrong with iOS?

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by valuearb »

Someone1234 wrote: post #8

The cheapest iPhone is also as expensive as some mid-range Android devices and completely inaccessible to a large chunk of the world's population. When a device that most will spend $449 on is "cheap" you have to admire Apple's price anchoring[0], they release a $1249 flagship and suddenly what the largest iPhone 5S flagshp cost ($442.09 inflation adjusted to 2020) at launch is considered "cheap." It is undeniably a…

You have lost perspective when you ignore actual costs, including wireless service costs. The $449 SE you buy today will sell for half that price used in 2 years, making its actual monthly cost less than $10.

The cheapest smartphone in the US costs at least $25/month ($300 a year) in wireless charges, and its owner will typically use it for thirty hours a month or more. Trying to save less than $10 a month (maybe a quarter per usage hour) by having a significantly worse camera and a much worse phone experience seems like ignoring the forest for the trees.

If you aren’t going to pay up slightly for a much better phone experience in today’s world, what are you spending your money on?

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Post by MR4D »

“Cheapest Porsche has a more powerful engine than the most expensive Hyundai”

You’d never read that anywhere, but it’s true.

Why people on HN care about phones so much is beyond me. Between fanboys and envy, it’s a weird world. I mean, tech is great, but this “mine is bigger than yours” is kinda old. (Or maybe I’m old....ok, I’m definitely old.)

Buy the phone that works for you and be happy with it.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by infamia »

baq wrote: post #11

i don't care. what i care about is that the cheapest iPhone has a longer support period than the most expensive Android. it's actually insane and infuriating because I don't even like Apple but there literally is no other choice if you don't want to switch your phone every two years.

Teracube's phone has a 4-year warranty and white glove service. The downside is, they're a brand new company.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by kyriakos »

baq wrote: post #11

i don't care. what i care about is that the cheapest iPhone has a longer support period than the most expensive Android. it's actually insane and infuriating because I don't even like Apple but there literally is no other choice if you don't want to switch your phone every two years.

Oneplus still releases security updates to oneplus 3. 8 just got released. Its not universal for android not to be updated but I think Samsung has created a bad rep.

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Post by tssva »

philosopher1234 wrote: post #73
tssva wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm confused by your comment. Which is it? Do they run great software or iOS?

What’s wrong with iOS?

Browsers are limited to using the built-in webkit engine, many default applications are fixed to Apple applications and can not be replaced as the default by a 3rd party app, apps can only be installed from the Apple App Store, support for PWAs is poor, and the UI/UX doesn't provide good discoverability of functionality (This seems to affect most Apple products but for some reason people here seem to think Apple has great user interfaces. For the worse example of this see tvOS.).

Also when switching providers iOS has a habit of sometimes getting into a state where it will refuse to send SMS or MMS messages. This has plagued it over many versions with the only resolution being to wipe the device and not restoring any backups because restoring will then break the functionality again. I know several people who have been hit by this and the support forums are filled with this happening to people.

The latest news is that since version 6 receiving certain email can lead to your phone being compromised even if you don't open the email. Which reminds me of another point. Despite Apple's best efforts there still exists software and/or devices available to governments which can subvert the security protections on iPhones. Also don't forget that time when receiving certain text messages could lock up iPhones.

That is just a short list of a few of the ways iOS is not great. You can argue it is better than some other systems but that still doesn't make it great.

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Post by pensatoio »

SECProto wrote: post #41
D13Fd wrote: post #35

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Honestly, what do you use the SD card for? Even with movies for flights, I haven’t filled a phone up in years.

Carrier data for phones is expensive. I use it to store media (podcasts and music) so I can pay for minimal monthly data. I bought a 128gb microSD card 3 or 4 years ago, meant I could save several hundred dollars (twice now!) by getting a mid-range phone with 64gb storage. Edit: for fun I did a quick cost comparison. I drive a lot and listen to music and podcasts. 40,000km a year. If I streamed, I would have to upgra…

I’m not sure this answers the question. I understand why having an SD card feels good, but in practice, you can fit tons of movies, music, and audiobooks in even just 64gb. It’s certainly a balance between all the factors that makes an SD card an attractive choice for you, but I think for the overwhelming majority of people, long-term updates/support are going to be far more valuable, even if they don’t realize it.
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