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Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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What can happen?

There's probably a chance of you being retaliated against or going to jail yourself, depending on how you're doing the snooping.

Indeed, and in that respect Echelog was a great source of OSINT material for the anecdote I described above. That, along with `whois` data and other public databases can reveal a lot without putting oneself at legal risk.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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The difference here is that Freenode is not used so much for informal chat as with other IRC servers. Many free software projects use Freenode as the primary communication method for project coordination, and in this case it is essential to keep logs. Not everyone is online 100% of the time and logs enable everyone to catch up if they've been offline.

Sure, but those projects can also trivially set up logging with their own bots and in their own clients, with better control of what is logged, when, why, and how those logs are shared. This service appears to have logged fewer than 100 channels. This wasn't an aggregate logger and anyway aggregate logging probably isn't permissible anyway due to GDPR.

I don't dispute the triviality of setting up your own log bot; I was merely pointing out that Freenode is not solely used for informal chat.

You bring up an interesting point about GPDR and aggregate logging. The same probably applies to mailing list archives.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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I don't really use IRC anymore but at the time I remember really hating loggers. Chats were informal and I really didn't like them showing up in google results and elsewhere. Not everything needs to be saved.

that's why you use pseudonyms ;)

Pseudonyms aren't a silver bullet.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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I just wanted to take a moment and share with the HN community that IRC is definitely very alive and kicking! There are great channels for thousands of amazing projects, communities and teams spread across so many great IRC Networks, from Freenode [1] to OFTC [2], to Rizon [3], to DALnet [4], to tildeverse [5], Snoonet [6], Quakenet [7], EFnet [8], IRCnet [9] among other networks [10]. IRC is no longer difficult to u…

Can IRC be used through Tor and with end-to-end encryption?

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What can happen?

There's probably a chance of you being retaliated against or going to jail yourself, depending on how you're doing the snooping.

publish your findings over tor, I guess

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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I just wanted to take a moment and share with the HN community that IRC is definitely very alive and kicking! There are great channels for thousands of amazing projects, communities and teams spread across so many great IRC Networks, from Freenode [1] to OFTC [2], to Rizon [3], to DALnet [4], to tildeverse [5], Snoonet [6], Quakenet [7], EFnet [8], IRCnet [9] among other networks [10]. IRC is no longer difficult to u…

If only I could build weechat from source on windows! If anyone out there is willing to provide binaries I'd be glad to buy you coffee so I can switch over from irssi mIRC is what got me into programming, actually... I miss the good old days

My first programming projects were scripts and modules for eggdrop. Every now and then I get a nostalgia flash. :) Surprisingly, some of those are still being used... 20 years after the last release.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

#78

I just wanted to take a moment and share with the HN community that IRC is definitely very alive and kicking! There are great channels for thousands of amazing projects, communities and teams spread across so many great IRC Networks, from Freenode [1] to OFTC [2], to Rizon [3], to DALnet [4], to tildeverse [5], Snoonet [6], Quakenet [7], EFnet [8], IRCnet [9] among other networks [10]. IRC is no longer difficult to u…

Is Rizon still the crime haven it was?

From what I understand, most of the fansubbing community there has moved to Discord.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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So, I'm too young to have ever used IRC. This must be a biggish deal to make it #2 on HN homepage. But can someone put this in perspective of how big a deal this is? On a scale of 'Rando County Legacy ISP-provided email service' to 'Gmail' is shutting down, where does this lie? IRC is not email, etc. but again, never seen this community.

IRC was the chat server. Freenode was THE OSS irc chat server. There wasn't any other game in town that could scale well enough that was free.

Agreed. Freenode was (and should still be, IMHO) the go-to real-time chat for open source projects.

I didn't realize how important at the time it was being founded. Rob Levin was an online acquaintance, and one day he started asking about how to fund an open source community service with donations. I was interested in open source and non-profits, so he and I talked a bit about that, but I didn't volunteer to help. Next thing I knew, he'd started Freenode, and projects flocked to it.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Add Bitlbee to the list and you can do magic.

Bitlbee needs some work. I don't think there's a single plugin for it that actually works properly.

They do but break the functionality of the base install too
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