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Re: Fastmail Labels Beta

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Post by lars_francke »

chrismorgan wrote: post #57
lars_francke wrote: post #50

It's not quite clear to me: Can these rules be applied to already existing mails at creation time? This is convenient in Gmail and when I last looked at fastmail in 2014 this wasn't possible. This was the support answer: "I am sorry, but our filters only work at email delivery time. You can't really use them on emails already delivered to your account. However, to work on already delivered emails, I would suggest you…

Since about a month ago, yes: https://fastmail.blog/2020/03/23/email-organization-filters/

Excellent, thank you for the link.

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Post by massysett »

erdaniels wrote: post #19

Might as well put it here since Fastmail doesn’t come up often. Does anyone find Fastmail’s spam detection to be pretty mediocre? I usually get a few obviously spam emails a week in my inbox. The volume is low so I don’t mind it but that’s really the one thing I miss from Gmail.

I find it far superior to Gmail because although Fastmail occasionally does not flag spam, Fastmail almost never sends legitimate mail to spam. Gmail would routinely give false positives which in my view is much worse than occasional false negatives.

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

jeltz wrote: post #69
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gmail already has a bad hack for this: It reports labels as folders and that duplicate copies of emails are in them. So the issue is that any other solution would work improperly for Gmail. Client support is a huge part of the problem: If it's outside the standard, clients aren't going to handle it the same way. JMAP, of course, fixes this.

IMAP keywords are in the standard.

Yes, but how to use them to emulate labels support is not.

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Post by codegladiator »

agustif wrote: post #67
codegladiator wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I regularly receive spam in gmail (russian and gmail originated spam) in main inbox. And promotions box is usually just spam. Also lately started getting spam google calendar events and they just wont go away even after reporting them as spam multiple times. I don't why is that even a feature, why can someone completely random add recurring-daily events to your calendar.

You can disable this somewhere, it scraps your emails (also spam) and adds up any ical events to your calendar which generates the event notifications... Can be fullly disabled somehow in gmail settings.

Thanks will search that.

edit: for anyone else looking, it was in calendar settings page

Re: Fastmail Labels Beta

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 wrote: post #47

While I sympathize with a company providing a good service and being paid accordingly, $5 a month still seems too high for email.

Email is way more important than Netflix, so you should probably be willing to pay more for email than Netflix. FastMail can get pretty pricy in a multi-user scenario, but as a single account it's a pretty reasonable price.

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Post by wbond »

nnutter wrote: post #29

If you have a spouse and/or kids, and you want them to use FastMail for the same reason you do, consider putting pressure on FastMail to offer a (reasonable) family plan. I’ve been a happy customer for a decade but they’ve raised their prices (which would affect new accounts) and do not offer a family plan so this year be my last year with them. Edit: typo

I have five children, three of which have an email address. Right now we are on a grandfathered free GSuite account. I would love to get away from Google, but $250 (and $350 in a few years) per year feels pretty steep. Most of the family plans with other software tend to be in the vicinity of ~3 full price users for up to 6. This would feel very reasonable to me.

Just wanted to add my voice that I’d love to see a discounted family plan! Even if there were constraints on subsidiary accounts - it isn’t like my kids are sending 50 emails a day.

Edit: I should note I am already a paying customer with my business email.

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Post by beart »

macintux wrote: post #70
mb_72 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$5 / month is still pretty close to $0 / month for many people. I transitioned from Gmail -> Fastmail a year ago, and I'm very happy with all aspects (reliability, features etc). Would be fine with paying > $5 month if that's what it took.

It's quite disappointing how skewed our perspective on software pricing is. I grew up in an era when compilers cost $1000; now people complain about $3 for an iPhone game. Given that a burger cost $5, I'm more than fine with sacrificing a burger each month for private email.

where are you getting a $5 burger??

Re: Fastmail Labels Beta

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Post by joshmn »

newscracker wrote: post #63
nnutter wrote: post #29

If you have a spouse and/or kids, and you want them to use FastMail for the same reason you do, consider putting pressure on FastMail to offer a (reasonable) family plan. I’ve been a happy customer for a decade but they’ve raised their prices (which would affect new accounts) and do not offer a family plan so this year be my last year with them. Edit: typo

This is a big reason why I list cheaper alternatives to Fastmail whenever the topic of emails comes here. If your needs are more than one mailbox (not aliases), then Fastmail soon becomes prohibitively expensive. A few years ago, when asked about cheaper pricing plans, Fastmail replied that it has no plans (no pun intended) to go cheaper or offer cheaper plans. There are other alternatives that are cheaper and focus…

Basecamp is launching their email service soon — Hey.com — as well.
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