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Note that the lawsuit is a class action for shareholders of Zoom stock. Filing: https://i.judge.sh/natural/Babs/1-main.pdf
Presumably the zoom user agreements include arbitration clauses, etc that prevent users from filing class actions or lawsuits. It's a get out of jail free card they'd be dumb not to have included.
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Why is having engineers in China cause for suspicion? Lots of tech companies have engineers in China. Eg Microsoft.
But if Microsoft has teams in China, Russia work on MS Teams, I will be very concerned. The same goes with Slack, that many companies now rely on to keep business going.
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Seeing as encryption is illegal in China, I don't think they will need to give up any keys.
>Seeing as encryption is illegal in China Source for this? That would make any https site in china illegal.
I am not a lawyer nor a cryptography expert who can advise whether licenses are granted easily or whether they are revoked if you fall out of favour.
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Presumably the zoom user agreements include arbitration clauses, etc that prevent users from filing class actions or lawsuits. It's a get out of jail free card they'd be dumb not to have included.
Shareholders don't sign user agreements.
my employer currently signs up for zoom, apparently managed via our SSO-solution. so far so good. Right now, I got an email from Zoom, not showing any relation to my employer or mentioning its name: "congratulations for signup, use your account now". Ok. Password reset yields an usable basic account. Seems like somehow Zoom created a personal account for me with my work email. As I didn't get the activation email I g…
Note that the lawsuit is a class action for shareholders of Zoom stock. Filing: https://i.judge.sh/natural/Babs/1-main.pdf
Interesting that shareholders are the one to fill a lawsuit.
However, they do need to pretend for the court that this more than just a lawyer led money grab and that they actually represent the interest of a plaintiff. Enters Michael Drieu. If you read the complaint [1] you'll see Michael Drieu claim damages of ... $300. He's basically enabling a shakedown out of either malice or stupidity but not greed.
So no, it is not as if the shareholders of Zoom were up in arms against the company, this is just ambulance chasing with a puppet plaintiff.
https://www.scribd.com/embeds/455562311/content?start_page=1...
Don't know what is going on at Zoom, but I suspected at least part of it sneaky. For example, about 3 or 4 weeks ago I heard about this company, and learned that it has R&D in China per its SEC filing at IPO. However, checked its website, the career section led me to https://jobs.lever.co/zoom , and there was ONLY one opening at China per the website (I remember it was a position at marketing department). Then I sear…
Why is having engineers in China cause for suspicion? Lots of tech companies have engineers in China. Eg Microsoft.
The decoupling has begun. Sentiment in the US toward China has never been as negative as it is now, from both sides of the aisle. I wouldn’t be surprised if we even see sanctions against China after the dust settles on this COVID fiasco.
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Yeah right, oops
Yes it definitely is an "oops". I'm not excusing it, but offering an alternative explanation to the "zoom is evil" thinking. If zoom was truly trying to market themselves as e2e, why is this only buried in one document rather than shouted from the hills?
They updated their documents since, but last week they had documentation up that said they were HIPAA compliant due to end to end encryption.
Don't know what is going on at Zoom, but I suspected at least part of it sneaky. For example, about 3 or 4 weeks ago I heard about this company, and learned that it has R&D in China per its SEC filing at IPO. However, checked its website, the career section led me to https://jobs.lever.co/zoom , and there was ONLY one opening at China per the website (I remember it was a position at marketing department). Then I sear…
Why is having engineers in China cause for suspicion? Lots of tech companies have engineers in China. Eg Microsoft.
Don't know what is going on at Zoom, but I suspected at least part of it sneaky. For example, about 3 or 4 weeks ago I heard about this company, and learned that it has R&D in China per its SEC filing at IPO. However, checked its website, the career section led me to https://jobs.lever.co/zoom , and there was ONLY one opening at China per the website (I remember it was a position at marketing department). Then I sear…
"Zoom, a Silicon Valley-based company, appears to own three companies in China through which at least 700 employees are paid to develop Zoom’s software. This arrangement is ostensibly an effort at labor arbitrage: Zoom can avoid paying US wages while selling to US customers, thus increasing their profit margin. However, this arrangement may make Zoom responsive to pressure from Chinese authorities."
https://citizenlab.ca/2020/04/move-fast-roll-your-own-crypto...